London

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This is about London so no comments on how crap and expensive it is from non Londoners.

Aibu to get annoyed when people describe places that aren't London as London?
Sidcup and Bromley are in Kent!
Croydon is in Surrey!
Stratford is Essex!

Living in these areas is suburban. It's not living in London is very different it's suburban living.

Yes the tube map is huge just because it's on the tube doesn't make it London the metropolitan line goes to something like zone 6 I think it's further away than Brighton is the other way.

Bragadocia I never released it was that many- I'm guessing a lot of those were crammed into the slum housing in Docklands/Canary Wharf that all got torn down in the years after.

Are you complaining because some people are claiming to live in London when they haven't 'earn't it. Does it matter?

I would class 'Greater London' as very roughly inside the M25 but I do know that this is not an exact description and Central London as around or near all the famous bits in the, er, Centre (Buckingham Palace, Tower of London etc) and again, this is very a very rough association. I am not saying it is exact at all.

What is totally meaningless to most people is the whole 'we live in Zone 1/4/6 etc' because looking at a tube map that lumps together places like Chigwell and Richmond, both being in Zone 4, but are miles apart both geographically and demographically, as far as I know.

Stratford is not Essex. How stupid.

stratford is not in Essex. lived in essex all my life and stratford is a long way from being even part of essex.
2 buses to get there when we went to see relatives!

Airports are almost always quite far out from city centres, requiring a substantial train/taxi ride, that's not unique to London/Luton.

was talking to someone the other day whose son wanted to rent in stratford, but the places he was looking at was reserved for local residents only. i have vaguely heard of this happening, but was still surprised. i can see why they do it as a lot of the areas have been regenerated and its proximity to london is also a bonus ( its a real trek on the train from here to london and fares are huge) stratford seems to be up and coming.

Umm... The London Borough of Croydon?

I take your point that suburban living is different to living in central London, but I've heard it said that London is a city of villages anyway, so it shouldn't make much difference and as the city grows that's bound to be the case.

Before starting a thread like this you probably want to be sure what is in Greater London because you clearly don't have a clue.

YANBU to be annoyed OP, be annoyed by whatever you like.

Those places are served by London transport, can vote for the London mayor, have London phone codes, are officially in 'The LONDON borough of...', are policed by the metropolitan police etc.

But....crack on and be annoyed by the people who live there believing they live in London.

Stratford is essex!? Think you need to familiarise yourself with a tube map

It's a strange thing to get annoyed about. Ignore it. Who cares?

As others have said, they're all in London Boroughs, London Travelcard Zones, have London buses and tube stations, and Stratford even has a London post code (E15/E20).

Personally I would call anything outside the London post code area and beyond Zone 3 as 'Greater London', but it's all still London. You pay tax to the Greater London Authority if you live in any London borough.

Should imagine it's the same with London/Greater London, as it is with Manchester/Greater Manchester.

Eg, Bury was Lancashire, now GM - most still consider it Lancs.

However, other areas are fully seen a Manchester - Sale, once in Cheshire now GM.

Is Stratford where the Olympics were and where that big shopping centre, swimming pool and big park is? That's London. Aren't a lot of places at the edges of London technically in other counties.

Haha I am with you OP!

People call it London because they like to pretend they are living in London.
The real "London" is zone 1, zone 2 at a stretch.

It's not even a new fangled pretension, the London boroughs as they are now were defined over 50 years ago.

Stratford did start off in London back in t 1800's. It remained a part of London for a few years, before reformed and became the responsibility of Essex. Then around the time that East and West ham were reunited, Stratford was 'moved' back to London in the 1960's.

People call it London because they like to pretend they are living in London.

Or, because they live in a London borough, vote for the London Mayor, metropolitan police....

I don't live inSurrey. If I did, there wouldn't be a sign a mile up the road saying "Welcome to Surrey!"

London just keeps getting bigger. I always ask where in London people live in order to gauge where they really are. I once got caught out by agreeing to meet someone in London and found out they were in Watford! Mentally I think of London as roughly zones 1-4.

So apparently by your reckoning the London 2012 Olympics were actually the Essex Olympics?! YABU. Stratford is very much London.

Yes, some places in Zone 6 have a very different feel from inner London, but if people want to call it London that's their choice. Stratford, on the other hand, is not up for debate. You are the only person I have ever heard of in 3 and a half decades who would not consider it London. Have you ever been there?

You do realise that Stratford hasn't been considered Essex since the mid-19th century?!

Yes when I grew up Croydon was in Surrey, Bromley and Sidcup were Kent but now loads of places are swallowed up as 'greater London', pleaces in Middlesex too for example.

Where I used to live was in surrey but down the bottom of the garden was in kent!

Regardless of Whether Croydon is/was in Surrey/Greater London I hated it!!

I live in zone 2 and it feels like suburbia here, so not sure being in surburban areas means you're not in London anymore.

Stratford is Essex!

Not it fucking isn't!!!!!

I'm kind of with you (apart from Stratford, which is definitely London now)

DH and I got chatting to a couple on holiday a few years ago, who said they were from London. We said we were too, and where did they live
Bromley. They live in Bromley and were trying to claim it as London.

I'm afraid I snippily replied 'Bromley in Kent?'
But I can say that, because I live in Zone 1 now since they reclassified it from zone 2 to appease some property developers