London

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This is about London so no comments on how crap and expensive it is from non Londoners.

Aibu to get annoyed when people describe places that aren't London as London?
Sidcup and Bromley are in Kent!
Croydon is in Surrey!
Stratford is Essex!

Living in these areas is suburban. It's not living in London is very different it's suburban living.

Yes the tube map is huge just because it's on the tube doesn't make it London the metropolitan line goes to something like zone 6 I think it's further away than Brighton is the other way.

Frazzled, i;ve never been to Manchester -- Cheshire is v posh isnt it? where a lot of footballers hang out?
who will you vote for as mayor, is this a new thing for your area?

I hate these arguments.

DP and I live in LB Bexley as we can't afford anything closer. I refuse to go into Kent. Our families are from Lambeth & Rotherhithe, we are Londoners. We vote for the mayor, we have the Met Police, we use Oyster cards etc x100.

It gets my back up that some people (a lot of which have moved "in" from other places ) now think that we're "pretenders" and not "proper" Londoners because we aren't in Zone 1. Might seem silly but it's our background and heritage so it pisses me off.

PS: If I were chatting to someone on holiday and they snippily said "oh you mean Kent" I'd think they were a massive cunt.

Wow you really hate Stratford! it's still London though.

On the whole born and bred thing (which I am). I work with a Parisian woman who moved to zone 1 two years ago (I live in Z3). She never tires of telling me that she lives in 'proper' London and that I live in the burbs. She talks to me as if I don't know London. I do find it's normally the non born Londoner's who big themselves up and seem overly impressed with living in London often slagging off where they came from like they've 'made it'. All my born London friends never go on about place, we just happened to have been born here, it's no big achievement.

the80sweregreat
"who will you vote for as mayor, is this a new thing for your area?"

Yes. Manchester residents were offered a mayor a few years back and voted against. Now we get one anyway as part of 'devolution'.

Yes an actual born and bred Londoner who was weaned on pie and mash
Stratford... probably the worst place on earth

Why are people who've never left the town they were born in always so bloody proud of the fact?!
OP, you really need to get out more I'm afraid. Who in the world gives a flying fuck whether someone in Harrow classes their home as London or not?

Nope, train thing doesn't make sense to me either - it takes more than 10 mins on the Thameslink from West Hampstead to Farringdon. I agree they are not the same place but they are both within London

They couldn't exactly put the Olympics in London so it was built on the biggest bit if wasteland nearest to London.

I just find it odd people lie about where they live.

I have to say Westfield Stratford is horrible, it always seems a bit claustrophobic compared to ours....

OP - You don't like Stratford - we get it!

That's exactly why it annoys me @funkychunk because it's my heritage I am still in central but people from outside London who live in places like Ilford and Dagenham and Hayes say they live in London but no you don't it's so different everything is ...

When did I say i had never left fernanie?

I live in one of the Kent/London towns mentioned above. My nearest station is in zone 4, I vote for the London Mayor, my local council is the London Borough of Bexley, my phone number begins 020 and I live within the M25. However, I have a DA postcode, my address has my town but not London, my nearest tube station is about 5 miles away. I consider myself to be part of London and not part of Kent - if tend to say that I live in SE London. I certainly would not consider that I live in NW Kent!

I find it laughable that postcodes play such a significant part in people's consideration of what constitutes London - after all, they are simply an operational tool devised by Royal Mail to help sort the post. It makes sense for the postal operation to sort my incoming post in a sorting office that happens to be in Kent - that doesn't suddenly mean that my house, and any others served by that sorting office, are also necessarily in Kent. That would be nonsense! If Amazon choose to deliver to my house from a Surrey base, would my house now be deemed to be in Surrey? Of course not! Postcodes have many uses, but determining political geographic boundaries are not within the powers of Royal Mail

Oy! I'm from Hayes originally I even pronounce nestels properly

Those place were in the counties you say but not since the mid 60s

It might not be skyscrapers and Canary Wharf but it IS London. It can have the odd field you know, maybe even a cow or 2! As evidenced by postcode and mayoral vote. It just is, you don't have to like it, but it doesn't make you right either.
I'm another that was born and brought up in Bromley. I now live in Devon, but my heritage is unmistakably London.

Wait, OP where exactly do you think London boundaries are??

People in Croydon, Bromley, Sutton etc get to vote for the Mayor of London so that's probably as good a sign as any that those places ARE in London.

putting
Why do you get to decide what is London and what isn't? Living in London is not an identical experience for every single Londoner. Someone living in Hampstead or Highgate in a mansion is not having the same experience of London as someone living in a tower block in Peckham. So which of them is the true Londoner?

Downham has a bromley address ie bromley Kent br1. But council tax is paid to Lewisham which is London. So it comes under the brough of lewisham there for London but bromley...

People who can't accept boundary changes are sad fuckers. Typified by people convinced they live in Surrey when they live in Richmond, London.

Croydon is definitely in London. And it's a great place.

Or perhaps all areas that would have an 020 landline prefix ?

tenshi it's not true that anywhere within the M25 is London. Reigate & Banstead for example, most definitely Surrey, never been otherwise. Epsom, again, Surrey.

I live in a London borough which used to be Surrey. Consequently, my town is referred to as 'xyz, london' or 'xyz, surrey'. And I would have thought this similar for many of the towns on the outskirts.

I live in the L B of Croydon and have a London postcode. It would be ignorant to claim that I don't live in London .

Grew up in Bromley with London phone number and votes for mayor. It's a tfl zone...also according to a neighbour who was relatively senior in post office the Kent in Bromley addresses is not even right and is ignored. I have lived central and further out my family is London born and bred ( not Bromley - woolwich) and each bit is different.
Have moved back recently and some bits of the borough like penge definately feel more London than others but they are London.
Op just seems to not get se London which is fine more affordable easily commutable houses for those who are not snobs.