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Parking, assaulted. AIBU to report to police?

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newnamenew · 23/02/2017 17:33

Car parked in disabled spot. Only disabled bay on site. I politely pull up alongside and down my window. Person does same. I ask if they are disabled, they reply no, I ask if she would please move as I use a wheelchair and really need the spit.

I'm to,d I'm arrogant and she was refusing to move due to my attitude. So I park alongside. She'd parked, if you imagine an inverse T shape, she would be the I part. She had a car parker behind her but room behind. So I parked I. The T of the inverse T. I got my wheelchair out and displayed my disabled badge. Person 2 comes and asks me what the fuck I'm doing and to move my fucking car. Goes into my car and takes my disabled badge saying I wasn't disabled anymore and goes to their car. I start wheeling to the shop, comes up behind me, drags me back towards my car by the back of the seat. It tilts, back at my car, chair still tilted hits me in the back, tries to get in my car again, puts finger in my face saying I give disabled people a bad name.

I go into shop, came out to find badge on back of car wiper thingy and they'd gone. Should I go to the police? Was I bring unreasonable not to move my car to give them move room to exit the disabled spot (mind they exited the spot anyway)?

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UptownFlunk · 24/02/2017 21:07

I don't get this at all OP and I think the police have advised you wrongly. I was punched in the face years ago and still have a scar to show for it. My sister was there and the person who assaulted me also had a witness. The police took it very seriously and charged the person concerned, it went to court and she was convicted. There was no other evidence - no CCTV, no independent witnesses. I would press to have the other person charged - even if the charges are dropped at a later date it will still frighten the shit out of them - particularly if they would lose their job if found guilty.

brummiesue · 24/02/2017 21:10

Im sorry but I would not be accepting this. There is not cctv footage to back up every crime committed, many are simply from victim statements and/or witnesses. Contact them again and pursue this tomorrow when you feel stronger, please dont give up Smile

OopsDearyMe · 24/02/2017 21:19

Hell yes contact the damn police, WTF ???? I cannot actually believe someone did that to you. It must have been terrifying jeezus and no one helped you??? Omg I swear ...

OopsDearyMe · 24/02/2017 21:20

Sorry should have read whole thread put was a bit shocked and jumped to comment...

Spottytop1 · 24/02/2017 21:24

Op contact your MP or local disability support group, I really feel you have been fobbed off by the police and it's very wrong.

Thattimeofyearagain · 24/02/2017 21:41

Flowers for you and your DD.

newnamenew · 24/02/2017 21:43

Am just totally overwhelmed. Not what I expected at all, I hardly go out as is due to disability then when I do this happens. Feel let down. Thank you for the kind words, emailing MP is a good idea, as is pushing via the police.

Whole shebang has affected my disability too, need to rest so likely won't post again now until tomorrow. And thank you again.

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OopsDearyMe · 24/02/2017 21:44

Get this on the DM! They love a mumsnet thread and this bloody woman needs to be given what for. I bet the police would act then!

Seriously tho, speak to victim support and get their views, they are brilliant.

As a disabled person too, I thankfully don't drive as I think I would have punched someone had they done what she did to you. Its not just the assault, she invaded your car and stole your blue badge I realise that she returned it. But I am thinking that there would be finger prints?? At least.

EweAreHere · 24/02/2017 21:45

I'm so sorry, OP.

Surely the police could 'bluff' in a sense when they go to speak with the man and woman about the assault. Say the store had cctv cameras and wait... see what kind of reaction they get.

And so what if it's your word against his? You have your daughter as well. YOu have injuries. You have a right to ask that the case be pursued.

Purplefrogshoes · 24/02/2017 22:20

That's shocking op. The police should have at least interviewed them before the decided they couldn't prosecute. I would complain. Definitely email MP as they will have to investigate then Flowers

TheFairyCaravan · 24/02/2017 22:38

I can't say I'm surprised at the police, tbh. We were subjected to a long and relentless bullying campaign because I am disabled. Every time the police came they said next time they'd do something about it but they never did.

One night they threw lit fireworks at my open bedroom window and front door when I was bed bound following spinal surgery. My kids gave chase and saw that it was the same kids. They admitted it on Fb before the police got here, but they did nothing because there was no evidence.

It's a fucking joke how disabled hate crime is dealt with.

Zampa · 24/02/2017 22:45

OP - please take it further with the police.

DH was recently assaulted and initially the police weren't going to take any action. Thanks to pester power, the police eventually did something. If you've got a bloody minded friend, rope them into help. Letters to chief inspectors help!

MiscellaneousAssortment · 24/02/2017 23:12

"It's really fucking hard, mentally and physically deciding to go out"

Hell yes. I don't think this is something that most people 'get', without personal experience or knowing someone in this position.

Relying on others to behave with compassion and ethics in order to live is a fools game we're trapped into playing every day.

One of the reasons I use a scooter is because the tiller gives me a bit more protection. Apparently it's quite a common thing, which surprised me as I thought it was my stupid brain being cowardly, but I guess not.

I'm so sorry the police didn't do much. It's upsetting as they could have been more supportive and it's not nice to know that people don't think it's worth going the extra mile for disability hatred and the terror it will leave you and your DD.

I'm so so sorry your DD witnessed this. It's so damaging for her to see someone assault her parent. I know it's the last thing you need right now but you'll have to keep an eye on her when the initial shock fades and get her zone help if she needs it. Makes me boil with anger on your behalf and as a disabled mum with a sensitive child myself.

I find if I have my DS with me people tend to be too busy staring and working out our relationship to be overtly abusive. It's when I'm on my own the hate comes. Which is terrifying though not been physically assaulted to date I'm not surprised it happens. Oh except when someone tipped me out of an airport wheelchair going through security for 'a joke'. Landed on my face, couldn't put hands up on time. I scrambled up so fast and so humiliated I injured my legs in the process. I hate people Sad mine was at least a long time ago. The shouts of 'scrounger, ducking benefit thief' from car windows are more recent though (which is v annoying as I have a job and pay tax myself! Though I should examine why I feel the need to say that every time I tell that anecdote...). Oh And the laughing as someone deliberately obstructs your way, stealing stuff from my scooter or plays chicken by jumping in front of me (resulting in soft tissue damage for me. But I should get a sense of humour apparently grrr). I guess we have the government to thank for much of this.

Anyway. Back to the point. I hate even the kindly motivated stuff when my little boy is around. They don't realise how instrusive it is and how damaging for DS, as they seem to feel compelled to come over to tell me how brave I am ( ... for queuing in MacDonalds & such like! Oh I do think it's nicer than the abuse but it's so, boak!), and then the awwww over DS starts.

And the 'you're a brave little boy aren't you with your mummy in that' or 'with you such a handsome little chap and all' ... err, though entirely true (unbiased mother that I am!), there's the implication that it's surprising cos of me?!

And I loathe the 'ahh is she your mummy? You're SO brave. Are you good for your mummy then? Do you help her lots? Do you do lots for her? You be good and look after your mummy then'... err no you well meaning idiot! He's 6 yrs old and is never going to be my carer if I have to die trying! And no, I don't want him being told he should have to compromise his childhood because I became disabled. I smile and as soon as they walk off say (possibly hiss violently to be accurate) 'DS that lady was very very wrong. Don't you EVER feel you have to look after me, I'm your mummy and I look after you, and that's it!' Growl growl speed off into sunset...

Anyway, lengthy post to say, my heart goes out to you. I get it and I'm so sorry.Flowers

SoleBizzz · 25/02/2017 00:20

We should all collaborate and write a book.

Bettyspants · 25/02/2017 00:36

No !!! Take this further OP! You've been assaulted! Having read most of the thread I'm outraged! Please find the energy to take this higher, could you also contact your local paper?

UnbornMortificado · 25/02/2017 01:36

I'm sorry op that's really shit.

Misc people just don't think, I have mental as opposed to physical problems but I hate that when people (and this is family and friends) imply that my older DD can "look after" me.

She's fucking 11, it will be over my dead body.

BlackeyedSusan · 25/02/2017 01:52

try the police commissioner as well if necessary

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/02/2017 10:03

I'm so desperately sorry about the police's attitude OP; I was hoping this wouldn't happen, but was aware of a chance that it might

Upthread I mentioned a possible agenda, and I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the pressure to resolve cases. It's absolutely no excuse, but could they be avoiding what they see as he said / she said scenarios in favour of "quick-fix" issues?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/02/2017 10:07

Can I also suggest that, if this is down to an "internal admin" issue, the police commissioner would probably be no good - he'd more than likely sympathize with "their awful difficulties caused by the savage cuts" Hmm

Personally I'd use an MP; IME they're professional busybodies at the best of times and would probably love a case like this

flumpybear · 25/02/2017 10:19

I'd take it higher - police commissioner and MP - tell them it's affecting your well being and you've got no closure and feel you could be at risk as they'll know your name!
People like that should be interviewed by the bloody police even if no cxtv and try to see if they admit anything they can be charged for! Bastards!
Sending you Flowers

nachogazpacho · 25/02/2017 10:38

Horrible. Even worse not longed as a hate crime or pursued because it's your word against his! What about your injury. Why would a wheelchair bound woman start a physical fight with an able bodied man? It makes no sense that you would have started this altercation. Or that there is no evidence he physically assaulted you. Your dd was a witness, for starters. I'm not sure you should leave this here. Can you get some legal advice when you are feeling up to it?

Secondly, I believe when you are disabled/pregnant/have children or any other situation when you are vulnerable you get to see all sorts of anti-social behaviour. People like this man are just waiting for their chance to have a pop at someone more vulnerable than them. I suspect he is known to the police for other anti-social behaviour.

Thirdly, I think that there are a large number of people who whilst aren't anti-social are quite selfish and unable to empathise with your disability. Those are the 'I'll just be a minute' people who think their time trumps yours. If they spent a day in your position I'm sure they'd realise how wrong this attitude is.

Finally, there are quite a few of us who wouldn't do this to you op and we would wade in if you needed help when putting up with this sort of abuse. I've got myself into all sorts of pickles wading in when children/adults need help. I don't hang around and wait for others to do it. There is a quiet minority of us who would not hesitate to help you if you needed some support publically, even if it meant we'd get a mouthful too. So don't lose faith and be brave - you will need to go out sooner rather than later. I can see this adding to your panic anxiety if you don't force yourself to go out. Just think that most people are passive, a few are anti-social twats, but a few at the other end are willing to put themselves out there to help you.

nachogazpacho · 25/02/2017 10:44

Just read Miscellaneous's post about the amount of shit you put up with. I can see why even knowing these anti-social people are the minority it would put you off going out and about. Because it can happen so suddenly and unexpectedly. Even if someone were to step in and help you out, the event has already happened.

Fucking assholes. Tipping you out of your scooter at an airport?! Fucking assholes.

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 25/02/2017 10:45

I was the subject of an awful assault about a year ago. The cons table who was dealing with it was terrible partly due to the stupid way they record an deal with crime. I complained to his sergeant and the inspector which is when things were done better.
I suspect for the PC it was just too much work on their automated system designed to record burgularies from garden sheds.
COMPLAIN !

FairfaxAikman · 25/02/2017 10:46

I'm not disabled but my grandparents are and I've had abuse for nipping back and forward to the car with shopping while they slowly make their way back to the car (they are quite independent but we all find this speeds up the shopping trip so gran can get home to her oxygen pump).

One thing that opened my eyes as to how difficult things can be if you have a disability was something I did for work.
I went out with Guide Dogs - they blindfolded me, handed me a dog and sent me off through the city centre (I did have a trainer following me). I had folk (apparently on their phones) walk into me and blame me. Add to the fuckers who parked on the bloody pavement and I was raging by the end.

newnamenew · 25/02/2017 11:05

About to read all the comments since my last post.

I didn't sleep well, and kept having bad panic attacks. Im actually scared to go out now, even with someone there to support me. Life is hard enough having to use a wheelchair and the comments and looks of disdain I receive on a regular basis can be easily brushed aside. These might be due to my age, I don't know.

To be physically assaulted though is an entirely different matter. It takes things to a significantly higher level. A level where I'm actually frightened to leave the house. Where the thought of someone being confrontational begins a panic attack.

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