We're only showing Ami the good news now to keep her sweet. It's another Trump thread!

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I know it's not funny really but I did have a chuckle at the Mail being bracketed with the Guardian and the BBC.

There's a very good French series on Channel 4 player called Resistance.

It is about a resistance group on France during WW2. It's very day to day life and it's basically that. Showing ID, people knocking at your door, checking documentation, being incarcerated, infiltrators. being asked where you are going etc etc. Oh - and hiding people who are unacceptable to the regime

It's why people who have experienced occupation fear all this.

However, Trump was always tweeting about Obama and golf so he is certainly a dishonest hypocrite.

That is the problem. :)
There is a clip where he specifically said to people that he would be working. Not playing golf.
That's a promise he's not in a rush to remind people of or to keep.

Where's he now then? Catching up on the weekly chores or stating about in Miami?

Where'd a bloody hurricane when you need one.

I know it's not funny really but I did have a chuckle at the Mail being bracketed with the Guardian and the BBC

Goes to the Express website to see how they report it....

Wow. The Express is interesting. They LOVE Farage. And Le Pen. Who SURGES to a lead.

No mention of exclusions.

That's a promise he's not in a rush to remind people of or to keep

If CNN report it, it's fake news. It never happened. He never said it. Or he did say it but he didn't mean it.

Gaslighting. Pure and simple.

I am completely aghast, as ever, at his antics. When will the 'check and balances' kick in then?!

Everyone should do the broken record thing and go on and on and on about Angry spice saying that the press having access to government makes the difference between living in a democracy of a dictatorship.

Never mind banning parts of the press, if press briefings increasingly become private 'gaggles', doesn't that also mean that the public can't make up their own minds?

Is it an admission that the press briefings are a disaster?

In the old days restricting access would have meant that the story couldn't be reported the next day or on the 6 o'clock news.

Now people expect live tweeting and live streaming and instant access on Facebook and YouTube. Spicer may be able to hide in the WH, but he can't stop people uploading videos of town hall meetings or sharing information on Twitter.

(OK, there are countries where the state controls social media, but the US is still a long way from that.)

Just scooting through that transcript of the gaggle. It's good to see that even when they hand pick friendly media he still gets battered and pushed onto a corner. There is a whole bit where he gets in a strop and keeps asking the reporter if they asked the same questions of Obama. You can feel the reporters frustration oozing out the screen as you read the exchange.

Wow. The Express is interesting. They LOVE Farage. And Le Pen. Who SURGES to a lead.

Richard Desmond, who owns the Express, is a UKIP donor.

Bigly I just hope the Daily Mail DO make a proper fuss about it. They don't have a good track record in standing up to fascism obvs.

But I would be the first to cheer on those DM scumbags if they (ironically) were to be outraged at the media ban and help to open people's eyes to this Republican administration.

I heard Spicer spluttering on radio 4 this morning. He does not sound like a man in control.

But I would be the first to cheer on those DM scumbags if they (ironically) were to be outraged at the media ban and help to open people's eyes to this Republican administration

Can you imagine the Press Conference?

"Hi, it's a journalist,Daily Mail"

"Daily Mail, another beauty. Melania's suing you guys. Fake news"

God that would be so ironic. The Daily Mail who specialises in supporting the Tories and in spreading hate being told they're FAKE news by Trump.

But the DM is fake news. I have to agree with that. It's more like a comic for idiots.

Trump is fact checked every day. He was fact checked live at his own press conference, and his reply showed him to be either lying, stupid or incompetent.

I understand that many people don't read and dislike 'cleverness'. This is nothing new. 'Boff' and 'swot' have been used in the UK as insults for decades.

However, isn't there a point when any supposedly intelligent person can't support Trump with a straight face?

I would like Melania to win this. It would set the cat among the pigeons. Especially if she won it when Trump makes his state visit.

Re: the Kentucky killing, Trump seems to be inferring that it was one of those 'isolated incidents' committed by somebody with mental health problems.

Yet, leaving the issues of racism and religion aside, he wants to reduce gun controls.

The Kentucky killing was abhorrent. I hope India make a huge stink about it. Of course it was a racially motivated murder. Outrageous he's allowed to pull out the mental health problems card. That's disablism right there.

Re: the Kentucky killing, Trump seems to be inferring that it was one of those 'isolated incidents' committed by somebody with mental health problems

Funny how people like Trump are very keen to criticise people who give that reason when someone who is Muslim carries out the same kind of attacks.

Things have gone too far now, and I mean TOO FAR!!!!!

The maker of the film on Sweden that led to Trump's comments on Sweden misused an article by Ruth Alexander of Radio 4's More or Less!!!

It uses a shot of a 2012 BBC article titled 'sweden's rape rate under the spotlight' by RA that had nothing to do with immigrants and was about understanding the way Swedes record statistics.

Here is Ruth Alexander's comment on the doumentary. Worth a listen and also good on defining 'fake news'.

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I understand that many people don't read and dislike 'cleverness'. This is nothing new. 'Boff' and 'swot' have been used in the UK as insults for decades

Too true, and conveniently forget that without cleverness we would still be in the stone age.
Distain for intellectual ability whilst enjoying the fruits of it

I've just read half that transcript of the press gaggle (ta v much whoever linked).

Good grief.

Some of the reporters are very good: calm, well-formed questions which articulate the points they are asking. And then Spicer: rambling half-sentences, "look a fish"...

It's only 45 being even more incoherent that has lowered the bar so far that Angry Spice feels like an improvement.

Distain for intellectual ability whilst enjoying the fruits of it

It's like that famous line from Gove during the brexit campaign that 'Britain has had enough of experts'. Somehow I doubt he feels the same way about the person who fixes his expensive cars, sorts out his plumbing or carries out his surgery. Make them all visit unqualified doctors and see how much they prefer 'common sense' then

Wow, the Oscars really is getting political this year. Rallies replace pre-oscar parties.

Jodie Foster and Michael J Fox have led an anti-Donald Trump protest two days before the Oscars in Los Angeles.
The United Voices rally was staged by Hollywood's United Talent Agency instead of its usual pre-Oscars party.
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