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We're only showing Ami the good news now to keep her sweet. It's another Trump thread!

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BiglyBadgers · 23/02/2017 14:29

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BiglyBadgers · 25/02/2017 11:17

Geert Wilders: Far-right Dutch PM frontrunner says 'Islam and freedom are not compatible'
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/geert-wilders-dutch-pm-frontrunner-far-right-islamophobic-freedom-a7593466.html

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MsHooliesCardigan · 25/02/2017 11:26

Thinking about the Oscars, there is bound to be a movie about Trump one day. I wonder who would want the part and who would play Angry Spice and KAC?

thedcbrokemybank · 25/02/2017 11:27

I hAve followed all of these threads. I too am absolutely appalled that this is being allowed to happen. The things that really strike me are:

  1. The acceptance that he won't release his tax returns
  2. The fact that he hasn't fully relinquished his businesses and that they are actively profiting and benefiting from his presidency
  3. The ban of certain media outlets and his constant undermining of them and the judiciary
  4. His outright lies

I just do not understand how this is allowed to happen. Do the GOP value the power more than very basic common decency?

merrymouse · 25/02/2017 11:29

Well in a way Geert is right, you can't be too careful about immigrants. Plenty of people wish their ancestors had taken those Christian Europeans a bit more seriously. I think some of them are in Dakota.

Destinysdaughter · 25/02/2017 11:31

The BBC should use Trump for libel!

Dumdedumdedum · 25/02/2017 11:32

thedcbrokemybank I know, I know, I know! BIGLY. But WHO will rid us of this turbulent Trump?

amispartacus · 25/02/2017 11:41

Do the GOP value the power more than very basic common decency

The GOP has been very quiet on this. It's surprising. I don't like the Tory party but I know there are decent politicians in it who say what they think is right.

Destinysdaughter · 25/02/2017 11:42
  • sue not use!
Dumdedumdedum · 25/02/2017 11:48

Umm, somewhat belatedly, it occurs to me - about the thread title? How is it possible to post on it and satisfy Ami's requirements of happy thoughts?

woman12345 · 25/02/2017 11:48

Teen vogue really is a great voice too:
www.teenvogue.com/story/thigh-high-politics-activists-resistance-lauren-duca?mbid=social_twitter
The resistance has a beating heart, and those numbers are the receipts to prove it. Now, to all the recently indoctrinated freedom fighters: Welcome

woman12345 · 25/02/2017 11:49

Smilehappy news^

peaceout · 25/02/2017 11:50

Probably will be a movie about the trump shitstorm...but will it be USA made?
Or will the USA fall into collapse leaving the way clear for a different superpower

woman12345 · 25/02/2017 11:54

King Lear, with Glenda Jackson is about to start in New York, transferred from Old Vic.
A mad old king splits his kingdom and hands power to his cruel and fascistic daughters, but the story doesn't end there.Grin

merrymouse · 25/02/2017 11:59

I think the GOP are worried about the backlash if they oppose Trump.

It didn't go very well for them when they condemned him on the Billy Bush video and Trump knows that.

amispartacus · 25/02/2017 12:01

www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article134508139.html

What's the difference between a hate crime where people are shot for being different and a terror attack where people are shot for being different?

amispartacus · 25/02/2017 12:02

Witnesses said that before the shooting, Purinton was allegedly making bigoted slurs toward the two Garmin employees, who are of Indian descent.

At least one witness reportedly heard him say “get out of my country” before the shooting.

Grillot was reportedly shot while attempting to come to the aid of the other men.

Both Howe and Eric Jackson, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Kansas City office, said it was too early in the investigation to determine if the crime could be classified as a hate crime.

“We’re less than 24 hours in,” Howe said. “We want to be sure of the facts versus speculation.”

Unlike Trump.

NotDavidTennant · 25/02/2017 12:05

The GOP control the presidency, congress and soon the supreme court. This is a once in a generation opportunity for them to push their agenda virtually unopposed. Even if they see Trump as something of a liability, why would they risk this opportunity by trying to shut things down? They still believe that they can ride the tiger and come out of this with what they want.

UnGoogleable · 25/02/2017 12:11

That transcript of the gaggle is very interesting.

I think it's clear from Spicer's words that Trump didn't want anyone else on screen that day to steal his thunder "The President spoke today. As you know, we don’t generally do we haven’t done briefings when the President has had a major event or an event with a world leader." and "And I think obviously the President gave a very powerful speech today, and our job is to make sure that we're responsive to folks in the media. We're here all day. We've got a big staff. And we want to make sure we answer your questions. We don’t need to do everything on camera every day. I think the President did a good job of making sure that -- today at CPAC, on camera, for a long time. And I wanted to make sure that the President's message carried."

Well that backfired!

I must admit, I thought once the hoo haa of the inaguration was over, things would settle down and he would just bumble along quietly until someone called him out for not delivering on his promises. Instead, we've had daily scandals, lurching from one thing to the next - Trump is driving this, with the timing of his executive orders and his tweeting. He is doing a very good job of keeping himself front and center of the news - it might not be the way he planned it, with far more negativity than I think even he expected, but he is driving this thing.

Sadly, the BBC won't boycott or ignore him - it's big news whichever side you're on. The State visit will be covered, but I expect it will focus on the massive protests that are bound to happen. And I'm holding out for Prince Charles to pull a blinder and insult him - THAT would be fabulous.

cozietoesie · 25/02/2017 12:19

Any of the American posters.

Has anyone emerged/is anyone emerging as a leader of the 'majority' here? They're needed at the moment. It's time to start campaigning I fear.

merrymouse · 25/02/2017 12:19

Trump's tweeting is very reactive though.

He seems very distractible.

UnGoogleable · 25/02/2017 12:24

Trump's tweeting is very reactive though oh yeah, I agree. I don't think there's much strategic thinking there. But just tweeting keeps him in the news and he knows it.

They're getting boring with this 'fake news' catchphrase now though.

God I hope the CIA, FBI and the Press are working feverishly behind the scenes to bring that fucker down. I think they're just waiting for him to make enough rope to hang himself - it will be Russia and his tax returns that finally force the GOP to act.

BiglyBadgers · 25/02/2017 12:28

I really don't think media boycotting Trump or the administration would be at all helpful. This would just leave the way clear for Breitbart and co to report, lie and spin however they please. The incident with some media being refused entry to the press briefing shows that this is exactly what Trump wants.

Whatever happens we must have alternative voices. The media has to continue to attend as much as possible and report the facts.

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BiglyBadgers · 25/02/2017 12:36

I think they're just waiting for him to make enough rope to hang himself

The fate of Milo Yiannopoulos is a timely reminder that those who are brought to prominence on a tide of populism can find themselves brought back down by the very same force, seemingly without warning. He is a fine example of someone being hoisted by their own petard in fact. I do have a small hope that the GOP will realise that Trump is no longer of use to them and he will find himself meeting the same fate as they turn on him. Of course this is providing they don't leave it too late!

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MsHooliesCardigan · 25/02/2017 12:38

woman That teen vogue link is brilliant. I have just been to a protest about the school cuts and their campaign is incredibly well organised. Three years ago, Jeremy Cunt tried to close down the A&E and maternity departments at the local hospital which would have been catastrophic. Local people joined together to campaign, took him to court and won.There was such a feeling of solidarity- there were roads where literally every window had a poster in it. Power to The Resistance.

amispartacus · 25/02/2017 12:41

Whatever happens we must have alternative voices. The media has to continue to attend as much as possible and report the facts

As ever - what are facts.

What are truths?

Jesus answered. “For this reason I was born and have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to My voice.”

“What is truth?” Pilate asked.