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Aibu to not want to apologise anymore (sex)

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ohmygoshnoonesaymyname · 23/02/2017 13:46

My dh and I went through a really difficult phase in our relationship a couple of years ago. He struggled having sex but that turned to him pressuring and guilting me into doing things I did not like it was an upsetting time - I accused him of being abusive.

He is better now. We have talked about it and he doesn't do that now. But I can't enjoy sex, I just can't. He also has gone too far the other way he always wants sex but I have to constantly tell him it's ok and apologise for him being upset for the accusations I made which I find really uncomfortable.

Apart from this one little issue we have a really good relationship. So aibu to be so uncomfortable with sex? He tries really hard but I just can't enjoy it.

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sarebear1983 · 23/02/2017 15:42

Just read the last couple of posts that were written while I was writing that response, what he's doing isn't fair at all and is really quite controlling

Iwanttogetitright · 23/02/2017 15:46

Have I posted this before - oops. Sorry. Not often I contribute.

So far!!Smile

Maybe he just is scared stiff of doing something he appears to have regretted from the past.
You write that you've otherwise a reasonable relationship. And you do want to have sex with him.

How else could he convince you? He's asking if it's ok. Checking with you. He's not repeating his mistakes, is he - your responses say not.

He wants to have sex with you, and you with him. Sit down together, go away overnight, a weekend. Rewrite the clarity in your own (both) acceptance & agreement re sex.

Tell the numptie that each time he asks first to 'check' that he's perpetuating the problem & screwing it up for you.
So;
rule 1). Don't do 'that'.
Rule 2). But do "that" more often, gentler, harder, longer etc.

You write you have someone who is worth having in your relationship. Work at it. Start afresh. He got it wrong. You're moving forward. Don't perpetuate the negatives & harp on about the past. Do things differently. Lay the past behind. Both of you agree this together.

Is there anyone who can say they've never asked/wondered/wanted to try/ proposed their own agenda, NOT in a demanding or abusive way, but exploring?

His exploring (cause he had whatever 'problem' you mentioned) may have been desperate attempts in too focussed a manner to overcome HIS problem.
And he lost sight of where he is/was and that turned out to be abusive upon you. WRONG fella. Totally wrong.
But, consider that he absolutely wants to make amends. That he's piss poor scared of repeating mistakes he genuinely didn't want to generate in the first place.

Your call. If you believe he is genuine in not wanting to replicate the mistakes & damage he perpetuated on you then find a way forward. It SHOULD get better. . .

I agree, Jaxhog
"Stop apologising. Just tell him you'll let him know if things go too far. And do it".

A sound, health, mutually agreed between you response.

Hoping it all improves. Flowers

Oddsockspissmeoff · 23/02/2017 15:48

He's still being sexually abusive. I wouldn't go near him.

TitaniasCloset · 23/02/2017 15:49

He sounds like a weirdo.

highinthesky · 23/02/2017 15:49

What a horrible situation.

It makes me glad I never married, the thought of having to service someone under sufferenace urghhhh

TheySayIamparanoid · 23/02/2017 15:49

He's making you apologise for telling him he was abusive??
What an absolute cunt!!

TheySayIamparanoid · 23/02/2017 15:49

He's making you apologise for telling him he was abusive??
What an absolute cunt!!

KungFuEric · 23/02/2017 15:50

I may be wide of the mark, but was the select thing he did still enjoy anal sex? Anal sex that you didn't particularly want and felt you were coerced into having?

Iwanttogetitright · 23/02/2017 15:50

Do you throw the 16 years down the drain or do you work on it? Couple counselling?

RedAndYellowStripe · 23/02/2017 15:53

Sorry but I agree that he is still using sex it have a go at you.
So before he was pressuring you to do things you didn't want to do.
Now he is putting the pressure to apologise for something you really don't need to apologise and is destroying the pleasure yu have in having sex with him.
It's not that different really.

So either he is abusive or he is punishing you for dating making him feel bad whilst ensuring he isn't the one who created the problem in the first place (if you apologises then that means he isn't responsible plus you might well end up believing it anyway - bonus).
Unless the apology is another of his scenarios that allow his to stay hard?? (You then come back to the first option though. Him being abusive for forcing you to do something you don't want to do)

Counselling?

At the very least, please stop apologising whilst having sex.

Hatemylifenow · 23/02/2017 15:56

Couples counselling is a terrible terrible idea - NEVER get couples counselling with an abusivr partner.

Foxysoxy01 · 23/02/2017 15:59

I am quite Shock at some of the responses on here!

The OPs partner is quite clearly abusive and has had sex with her against her will as stated in her OP and people are suggesting couples counselling! ShockSad

7feathers · 23/02/2017 15:59

OP. Sensitive question. When he's making you apologise during sex, do you cry?

You know this a a very serious, don't you lovely?

Rugbyplayersarehot · 23/02/2017 15:59

He's punishing you because you dared call him out on his abuse.

Now unless you are submissive he probably can't physically perform anyway and it's also punishing you because he knows you want sex.

Also he knows you don't enjoy sex with these conditions so that turns him on too.

He's all kinds of abusive and you may need to move on op.

This is no way to live.

DJBaggySmalls · 23/02/2017 16:00

Your DH is abusive. He was abusive to you before.
He is getting off on being abusive now.

JoJoSM2 · 23/02/2017 16:00

Has it occurred to other people that the OP is not assertive and doesn't communicate her needs and expectations clearly? And you can't blame all the problems on the husband?

RedAndYellowStripe · 23/02/2017 16:02

Even she isn't assertive (which wouldntbsurprise me) he has no reason at all to make her apologise like this REPEATIDLY when and only when they are having sex.
Just that in isolation would be a quite sick thing to do. More like he is actually getting enjoyment fo ever aplogising iyswim.

ohmygoshnoonesaymyname · 23/02/2017 16:02

Kung - that's it yes.

7feathers- no I don't cry I am not scared or upset when we have sex.i just apologise for accusing him (over a year ago now!)

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7feathers · 23/02/2017 16:03

Also he knows you don't enjoy sex with these conditions so that turns him on too.

^This.

This is extremely sadistic, non-consensual behaviour.

Let me show you.

Sexual sadists

Class I: Bothered by sexual fantasies but do not act on them.
Class II: Act on sadistic urges with consenting sexual partners (masochists or otherwise).
Class III: Act on sadistic urges with non-consenting victims, but do not seriously injure or kill. May coincide with sadistic rapists.
Class IV: Only act with non-consenting victims and will seriously injure or kill them.
The difference between I–II and III–IV is consent.

From Source Aggrawal, Anil (2009). Forensic and Medico-legal Aspects of Sexual Crimes and Unusual Sexual Practices. Boca Raton: CRC Press. ISBN 1-4200-4308-0.

Nothing wrong at all in being a I or II, beyond that however.

I've got to wonder OP if there isn't a serious porn thing going on. And I'm going to hazard a guess that it is S&M related.

DJBaggySmalls · 23/02/2017 16:04

You didnt accuse him. You told him you didnt like the things he pressured you to do.
Dont apologise. And consider taking classes in assertiveness.

ohmygoshnoonesaymyname · 23/02/2017 16:04

I don't know if he watches porn - he doesn't with me . I'm not sure on his own

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Foxysoxy01 · 23/02/2017 16:05

So JoJoSM2, are you actually reading the same thread?

ohmygoshnoonesaymyname · 23/02/2017 16:06

It did stop when I was ill and in hospital I just realised how much I hated it and went home and told him. And to be fair since then he hasn't .

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7feathers · 23/02/2017 16:08

Oh missed Kungs question there and have just seen the OP's response.

Yes. Very telling. Lots of people want anal. I personally love it. The OP has ever right to have her body respected.

7feathers · 23/02/2017 16:10

DJBaggySmalls

I imagine that the OP wants to please him even though it is going against her own natural inclinations. I think yes, absolutely work on your self-confidence OP but also take a step back and have a wee think about some of the responses.

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