To really wish someone other than Tony Blair had asked us to rise up against brexit?

[DeviTheGaelet]

Can't see a thread about this. And yes I know there is a brexit topic but I wanted to post in AIBU to see what people thought. If you don't want to read about brexit and have no opinion click away now.
Tony Blair is urging remainers to rise up against brexit because we didn't know what we were voting for and it's going to be disastrous for the country.
I totally agree it's a disaster and I think it's shocking we can plunge into the unknown when only just over 50% of voters voted for it in an advisory referendum with a campaign based on lies. I've been desperate for a political party to get behind on a remain ticket.
But why the fuck does it have to be Tony Blair, the man who totally ignored strong public feeling on Iraq who says this? Where are the opposition in parliament?

Blair has blood on his hands but I agree with him on this.

You're definitely not being unreasonable, OP!! It frustrates me so much that he's the self-appointed 'spokesperson' for Remainers. I voted Remain, and am very keen for us to reach some sort of compromise with the EU (however unlikely that might be!!) but I really don't think his involvement will be helpful in the long run.

I really agree with him on this. It was clear the day of the referendum results when he turned up for the first time in years that he was the only Labour politician who could actually understand the implications of Brexit.

Also doing it from The City was a stupid move too imo.

He's the walking talking epitome of the stereotypical remoaner really, I voted remain and am utterley embarrassed by the 'we know best' attitude of some remain voters towards those they consider to be less than them (Brexit voters).
The man is a walking cringe. And a prick.

'I totally agree it's a disaster and I think it's shocking we can plunge into the unknown when only just over 50% of voters voted for it in an advisory referendum with a campaign based on lies'

Very well put.

I very much agree with all of the criticisms of Blair and really wish that someone else could be taking on this campaign. Maybe even, oh I don't know, THE LEADER OF THE JEFFING OPPOSITION!!! Sorry for shouting. Corbyn's name is mud in my house right now

Blair is a big enough name and a good enough communicator to get the message out there. People won't ignore him like they do (sadly) with the Lib Dems. I'm just so glad that someone is saying this, and taking Corbyn to task while he's at it. Corbyn should be ashamed of himself

My heart also sunk when I read this. Blair is not an ideal leader for the Remainers for many reasons but who is the alternative?
As someone who is going to march on parliament on 25th March I keep thinking back to the anti-war protests Blair so easily ignored. Suddenly he wants to engage 'people power'. Oh, the irony.

I think it's hilarious, as there is nothing he or anyone else can do about it. It's a done deal. And like the other 'remainers' in positions of power, he is only doing this for the good of himself and his selfish self-serving peers.

The public voted to leave, Westminster voted 5 to 1 to leave; it's happening, no matter how much the remainers cry.

With Blair supporting a remain campaign it only makes me think leave must be the right thing to do.

Agree with Beatrix actually he stands for nearly everything i loathe about the EU, he sums it up very well and is therefore a good person to speak out against the democratic referendum.

There is not going to be a second referendum. Ever. You can get out your banners, go on your marches, strike, fill in petitions. it isn't going to happen.

Accept this. Move on and put your energies into making brexit work in the best interests of the country.

really it just couldn't be simpler. we had one, leave won so we are leaving the EU.

Blair is just a self serving publicist career politician. I deeply dislike the man. he is a war monger who took us into a hugely damaging and costly war. Pity he didn't hold a referendum on that isn't it.

Hear, hear mummymeister well said!

Tony Blair lied about so much whilst in power and is only interested in himself. Can't see how his support is going to help.

mummy,eister you don't even sound like you are interested in pretending to reassure those of us who think that Brexit is directly opposed to the best interests of the country. It really doesn't help.

We do constitute 48% of the population, we are not a small minority.

If you read the thread title you'd know many of us are quite aware to Blair.

mummy I don't know how you know that. Wishful thinking maybe. When inflation/sterling falls start to really bite I think a lot more people will be more vocal. We will see anyway.
I can't put my energies into "making brexit work" if my husband and I both lose our jobs due to cuts in spending as companies/the government struggle to absorb price rises die to the exchange rate. At the moment that's on the cards and it's scary.

sorry for typos!

Not sure who else there is with any weight. Tim Farron is obviously pro-remain but he doesn't really garner enough attention. Ken Clarke is fervently pro-remain and made a stirring speech in the commons at the time of the vote to trigger Article 50 but he is (sadly) almost a lone voice in the Tory party. Corbyn is refusing to go against the referendum result but even if he was pro-remain, he doesn't get a fair break from much of the media.

Flowering - unless you are a child, I have no intention of reassuring you or anyone else.

no one argues that you are a large minority but so what? the vote has been lost, for heavens sake move on and deal with it.

Devi - you forgot to add at the end of your post "doomed, doomed - we are all doomed"

We live in a democracy devi. that means we vote on things and sometimes the votes are incredibly close but because of this system it means you don't always get the outcome you want.

instead of being scared why don't you have a look around at what is actually happening in Europe at the moment. do you really think the e u can carry on kicking the greek debt crisis can up the road? what if le pen gets in or almost gets in. do you think the French can afford to ignore this.

I get that there are some people out there who really are unable to deal with change or to manage it or to manage themselves within it. but its time to pull on the big girl/ big boy pants and just get on with it.

I can confidently predict - there will be some industries where there are job losses and there will be some industries where there are job gains. Perhaps those who think there jobs are under threat should be planning what to do in the event of this happening, not holding on to some deluded hope that there will be a second vote, remain will win and all the disgruntled leavers wont behave as they have done demanding a third, fourth or fifth vote.

honestly, too many people behaving like chicken licken. I have lost patience with it.

People are entitled to carry on discussing it though.

Blair is one deluded individual if he thinks he has much support in the UK. With the amount of blood on his hands you would think he would never show his face in public again. Only a sociopath would be able to stand on a platform and address the nation after dragging them into an illegal war which cost the lives of men and women and destroyed families. He disgusts me and I despise him.

Discussing what user?

what does Bleurgh think is going to happen then?

We have a second referendum and we still vote leave. then what? another vote.

or we have a second referendum and vote remain. then what? do you think the leavers are all just going to roll over.

Best of 3? Best of 5?

If he's in favour of remaining it reaffirms my belief it's a good idea.

I don't see how TB can be advising people to rise up against an unpopular government decision with a straight face.

Blair will definitely have some kind of personal gain to make out of remaining, I wouldn't trust him.

The other day The Guardian had an article about how Britain will have a better economy after Brexit, short term pain for long term gain. Dislike the tories though.

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/feb/07/uk-g7-economy-trade-pwc-brexit-us

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