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It's a bigly Trump thread. Another beauty. But you don't need to know what's in it. I don't have to tell you. So there.

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amispartacus · 16/02/2017 22:37

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2855213-You-can-read-this-thread-anywhere-Even-in-a-Florida-resort-Its-a-secure-thread-Trump-cont

There was a press conference. It was interesting.

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woman12345 · 17/02/2017 09:33

Obama wasn't just on holiday with Branson, fight back against brexit started today in uk, watch Obama this week I reckon.
Branson has history co ordinating fight back against rich idiots.
www.theelders.org

BertrandRussell · 17/02/2017 09:38

Am I allowed to ask what's happened to Mumsnet's band of Trump supporters?

originalbiglymavis · 17/02/2017 09:39

I'm speechless at the journalist 'sideshow' yesterday.

I'd love to hear a journalist respond to that guff with pure, genuine emotion.

'Gee Mr so called President, you are talking such a load of bollocks. Fuck off and do us all a favour, you bag of wind'.

TuckersBadLuck · 17/02/2017 09:43

Nigel Farage ‏***@Nigel*_Farage 13h13 hours ago

Trump's approval rating hits 55%. He is doing what the American people elected him to do.
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Nigel Farage ‏**@Nigel_Farage 12h

President Trump is winning the trust of the public and the liberal media are losing it!

Lweji · 17/02/2017 09:44

Worth watching Colbert's take on the Stress Conference.

Watch reactions by Fox.

Roussette · 17/02/2017 09:44

pinboard she's in her twenties and has been on all the Marches and went to Mdme Tussuads and got her friend to take a pic of her giving the middle finger to Trump's waxwork! She's quite a gal !

Chippednailvarnishing · 17/02/2017 09:44

I've just tried to read the transcript of yesterday's press conference. And I can't.
In between the repeated use of the word, great, good and fantastic, it literally sounds like someone unhinged talking to themselves.

I wonder if Pence or Bannon took the opportunity to sit in the Oval office, taking selfies of themselves sitting at the desk. At this rate it's only a matter of time.

Roussette · 17/02/2017 09:47

Bertrand the merry band of followers have dispersed by whatever means. Some of them I could cope with but there were a couple who I really could not...

BiglyBadgers · 17/02/2017 09:47

pausing (I think) raised the issue of people rationalising Trump's words up thread "The journalist takes very short Trump sound bites, and writes an article around them so that they appear to make sense."

I have seen this happen a lot, both from supporters and anti-trump sides. There seems to be a tendency to just not be able to believe that someone could just be standing their spouting off whatever crap comes into their head, so people look for a meaning behind it. By doing this they tend to come up with the meaning they want or imagine is most likely. It comes back to the unconscious bias issue we talked about some threads ago. When Trump speaks there is literally no actual real meaning to his words, which makes him a sort of blank slate of crazy.

I keep reading articles and want to shout at them to stop rationalising what is clearly not rational. Just because you are sane doesn't mean he is!

prettyusefulsometimes · 17/02/2017 09:48

Wow, that "Media Accountability Survey"! I was expecting the last question to be "Do you believe the bad men asking The Donald bad questions are big poopy heads?"

Thanks for all these threads, I don't often catch up in time to comment. Read through yesterday's presser transcript; it's rambling and incoherent and what was it a diversion from?? That's the only way I can make sense of it; the monkey's dancing, what's the organ grinder doing? And who is the organ grinder??!!

I'm continually mad at the BBC, as, in their obvious attempts at not being biased their journalists seem ineffectual, almost leaving it to the viewer to decide who's "telling the truth". And there's too much laughing!!! They did it again on the Today programme when talking to John Sopel. Infuriating. But I thought they did a good job of showing how and why Trump would win. The night before the results were due, there were quiet interviews with American voters on their porches, I believe it was Mark Mardell. These were the voters least likely to respond to telephone polls so the journalist tried face to face. "I don't believe a woman can/should be president" said a woman voter. Added to that the BBC News at 10 piece about the various Militia groups at the ready for what may occur after the results, and I thought "oh dear" and went to bed.

amispartacus · 17/02/2017 09:48

It's called uranium and it's a bad thing. Have you heard of it?
They have nuclear weapons. We have weapons. Nuclear holocaust. Bad thing. Get along.
Fake news. Bad leaks.
I know who you are.
FFS

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originalbiglymavis · 17/02/2017 09:48

I wonder how long before he is revealed as:

  • An alien
  • A robot
  • A Russian spy
  • An evil genius intent on taking over the world by confusing the hell out of everyone whilst accumulating the wealth and resources of the entire planet.
  • a compete fruit loop who takes off all his clothes in a press meeting and runs around naked yelling 'look at me, I am the water nymph! Save me, captain Kirk!'

I'm not sure which I'd put my money on. None would surprise me.

CaveMum · 17/02/2017 09:49

Here's more on the approval ratings: thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/319927-rasmussen-pew-find-wildly-different-trump-approval-ratings

Farage is selecting the only favourable poll from the bunch. Quelle surprise!

Of course saying that I'm not sure I'd be pleased with a 55% approval rating, surely you'd rather something 65% and above?

peaceout · 17/02/2017 09:49

When he speaks its mostly rambling stream of consciousness, perhaps he deliberately keeps things vague and disjointed?
It is hard to fathom how someone who appears incompetent and narcissistic was able to become so wealthy and then get the top job

CaveMum · 17/02/2017 09:51

Mavis you missed "Alligator" from your list.

Perhaps David Wotshisface had a point about the Lizard People ruling the world after all...

woman12345 · 17/02/2017 09:53

prettyusefulsometimes
Agree with your post, the way this plays to his core vote is very important. BBC's failure to counter anti semitic and racist slurs speaks volumes, as does similarities with this performance and Putin's in early 2000s. Strategy is as important as reaction at this point.

originalbiglymavis · 17/02/2017 09:54

He was given money by daddy, whose own business dealings have been suggested as dodgy.

He has the brashness of someone who hasn't ever faced going hungry - he's never really had much to lose has he? I'm sure it's all smoke and mirrors like Bernie Madoff.

I'm sure I read somewhere that his mum said he was unloveable or sonething like that. It doesn't take Freud to work that out.

Headfullofdreams · 17/02/2017 09:56

Bertrand, you'll find the MN trump supporters on the Brexit Arms thread. They love him and Nigel on there Confused

LatinForTelly · 17/02/2017 09:57

Yep, born into money, and learned to be a big bully, without much ability. Not hard to hold onto it then.

possible fake news hasn't someone done some analysis that if DT's father had put his money equally into the ftse 100 or American equivalent, it would have made more money than DT has with his business dealings?

originalbiglymavis · 17/02/2017 09:58

Oh and I've worked in the City with some very wealthy high fliers, absurdly incompetent and a bit dim. How did they get the job? Daddy or miliatary connections. How did they keep their job? God alone knows. Old boys club I presume.

One I used to seriously wonder how he managed to get to his desk every day. He really was Tim nice but dim. Really nice guy but it was very hard dealing with him.

LatinForTelly · 17/02/2017 10:01

Beg pardon, he did initially make some money of his own, but would have done better if he'd stopped 30 years ago and invested in unmanaged stocks.

Yes, I've met one or two people just like that biglymavis. Didn't the independent used to do experiments getting either a toddler or a monkey to pick stocks and see how they performed against the best fund managers?! They normally did ok. Anyhow, sorry for diversion.

Lweji · 17/02/2017 10:04

Beg pardon, he did initially make some money of his own,

Not quite. Even my 12 year old knows he got a small loan of 1 million dollars.

MsHooliesCardigan · 17/02/2017 10:06

When you look at the transcript of anything he says, it really is just randomly generated words from a small pool of words. I wish I had the tech skills to make a 'Trump-o-Matic' which just generates words at random with a liberal sprinkling of Great, Tremendous, Fake, Sad etc. Whatever it generated, he'd be bound to say it eventually.

originalbiglymavis · 17/02/2017 10:09

And that was a shit load back then.

He's also lost a lot and people like that, when they lose a lot it's their suppliers and debtors who go bust, whilst they shout about how hard fine by they are by 'them' (politicians, foreign business, banks, meanies...).

cozietoesie · 17/02/2017 10:11

chartreuse

Your comments about the system of checks and balances?

I doubt the Founding Fathers could have conceived of a society where these things could happen let alone have articulated something to control it. It's the nukes that does it Sad

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