Fracking

[Againstfracking]

Lancashire voted NO to Fracking but it's been forced on us by the Government. We don't want it! What can we do?

Crackers
Why, when it's advising people to eat 10 fruit and veg a day to be healthy is it 'informing?'
But when you advise people about the effects of Fracking it's 'scaremongering.'
The effects are real, you know that, you just think that with 'regulation' they can be 'managed.'
I think people should be informed of the facts. Read up and inform themselves. It's not scaremongering it's raising awareness. If after reading up they think like you do, so be it, but you know few will.

LynB There is no scientific evidence behind 5 a day or 10 a day - that was promoted by the US farmers groups to increase sales.

Fair point on the "bribe" thing I suppose LynB...if you truly believe something is going to be atrociously bad, of course money won't make a difference. Such schemes have worked for wind farms,coal mines etc though...where the local community has hugely benefitted from the presence of an industry, which isn't great to have on the doorstep. Of course there are objections when new projects are proposed, but the meetings take place in community halls funded by the industry they are objecting against! I suppose there are also ways the community could campaign to ensure particular areas of concern are addressed. Getting independent testing of water, for example, paid by Cuadrilla ( if you don't believe their own independent tests)?

I think the point on the fruit and veg thing ( informing vs scaremongering) is the context. You could say "ah, but some people would do it by eating 10 bananas a day, which can give you too much potassium" or "but in the US all fruit and veg are sprayed with cancer causing chemicals, so even eating organic stuff in the UK is dangerous"... (not making any claims that either of these are true, by the way!). Of course there are "bad" ways of doing fracking, but claiming it is inherently bad, or that bad practice is normal is scaremongering in my opinion. Just as admitting risks and suggesting ways these can be avoided isn't admitting that the entire industry is too risky to proceed.

I was only using the fruit thing as EG.
Not a discussion.

Fossil fuels should remain in the ground if at all possible. Until all other avenues have been tried. Fracking is just stupid in my opinion. I've read copious amounts from both sides and debated at length but it still boils down to: 'why would you risk it!'

A wind farm or solar panel farm is not going to cause earthquakes or spoil your land or air for ever.

We just feel differently.

LynB I is not about 'feeling differently', it is the practicality of meeting our current energy demand with current technology at an affordable cost. Even the Green party manifesto sees fossil fuels in use in the UK beyond 2030. As it is not possible for fossil fuels to remain in the ground, fracking is a sensible way to get them.

@lynB
Wind and Solar can not run a grid. You need to understand that,

Baseload is crucial

https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/COMPENDIUM-4.0FINALL1116616.pdf?token=AWzC5NqSeJCX-gwkHV6JQISUEqAr7gNAtr-qdUMKRqJn4XqwzGxaTTcgPlhybOP2BZwWQQVpLAApQhZ3Uc-MG0S99l-NnesBW88_g4SSiirAC3Xu0Wi3IMmrhTUzOPAGT2kdGI6stHKKEKgPIQI0dQ5EKhwOO1cr6ZyyI-gcIQ3r8HFkqy1wsxRc7rGVpy32occ

Carol
There is nothing sensible about Fracking.