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AIBU to think double barrel surnames all sound stupid and there's just no need for it?

476 replies

ExpectoPatronummmm · 05/02/2017 11:31

I realise I will offend all you double barrellers
But why?
Do you realise it's a mouthful and makes you look like you're trying to be some kind of lord or lady?
What's wrong with one surname?
When I marry my OH i'lol take his surname. I won't just add it to mine and cause an unnecessarly long name to have to say/write/spell.

I think they make you look like a pleb.

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GinIsIn · 05/02/2017 14:31

I never said your brother's name isn't also from your father. Of course it is. And if he chooses to relinquish it upon marriage and take his wife's name that is his choice, but that would also be the name she has inherited from her father. Your name, if you were given your father's surname at birth, is indeed the one that passes to the males of the paternal line in your family. Your getting pissy about it being pointed out doesn't change that.

People can choose to keep their name or not, it is entirely up to them, but names being an established historical precedent do retain connections to the paternal line.

MixedGrill · 05/02/2017 14:32

"With children it just makes me think that the dad had no desire to marry"

Where , oh, please, where do we get this constant sexist assumption from?
Why wouldn't it be the woman, or both, who don't want to marry?
And why would it be something for you to judge?

Well done, OP, with your goady fake OP you have stirred up the women from the pre-sex-discrimination era, set woman against woman.... but on the plus side you made yourself loo a prat too Grin

MixedGrill · 05/02/2017 14:35

Hyphenated names mean the mother and father have both kept their own surnames , (whether they are married or not, whether they have each hyphenated their own names or not) and want the child / ren to have both their names.

MargaretCavendish · 05/02/2017 14:36

Your getting pissy about it being pointed out doesn't change that.

What I'm 'getting pissy' about isn't the fact that most names are passed down the paternal line, but the idea that this is some sort of argument against keeping your own name, and the idea that it's therefore silly for a woman to consider the name she's borne all her adult life to be a part of her identity.

VocalDuck · 05/02/2017 14:39

MargaretCavendish well said.

GinIsIn · 05/02/2017 14:40

I never said a word against women choosing to keep names for their whole lives. As I have said - it is entirely up to the individual. My point is that it is NOT OK for people like thumbcat to judge women who choose to change their names as being lesser, or anti-feminist.

ForalltheSaints · 05/02/2017 14:41

I don't think they sound stupid, just seem to me a reflection of the level of divorce or non-marriage that leads to a child having the birth surnames of both parents.

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PortiaCastis · 05/02/2017 14:48
Grin
FineLookingHighHorse · 05/02/2017 14:49

I know a Jacinta Barnes-Jones.

I think her name is fab.

CheerfullyIndifferent · 05/02/2017 14:52

My daughter has 2 surnames, as per tradition in my home country. I chose not to double-barrel them though, so in her British docs, mine comes as a middle name, in her other nationality both come as surnames. She knows they are both family names and if she chooses to hyphenate the in the future, it's her choice. I never replaced my family names with my husband's, I just added it to the end, so effectively have 3 surnames - Mrs Cheerfully Mother Father Husband no hyphens Grin I do go by Mrs Husband only though as grew tired of spelling the lot

AllPowerfulLizardPerson · 05/02/2017 14:53

'Hyphenated names mean the mother and father have both kept their own surnames , (whether they are married or not, whether they have each hyphenated their own names or not) and want the child / ren to have both their names.'

Not necessarily. It might just mean one parent's family have been double-barrelled, possibly for generations.

bowed · 05/02/2017 14:59

He didn't though did he Bowed...
(Do you not get that what I said was in response to stupidness of the OP?

I explained he couldn't use my name, but he would have done, I couldn't go into more detail than that. The fact he seriously considered still makes him submissive etc presumably.

No. It makes you judgemental to hold such a view, of women who decide to use the same surname as their husband, or the other way round.

AlmostAJillSandwich · 05/02/2017 15:00

I think they sound way better than someone having multiple kids with different dads all having their dads surnames only so none seem related, to each other or their mother.
At least if unmarried parents give the child both surnames it doesn't matter if they split up as they still get associated with their kids by name.
Personally i hate my surname (its a single one) so i'd happily take on a partners last name when marrying just to get rid of the damn thing! If however i'd had a surname like my mums maiden name, i'd have really liked it and whilst i'd want to take on my partners name to "officially" announce the unity, i'd possibly have kept my own too so as not to be losing an identity i liked.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 05/02/2017 15:01

Ms Anne Smith-Jones-Warblequacker-Fletcher-Spooner-Smith-Harrison-Ford

I'd fucking love a name like that!

Warblequacker Grin

bowed · 05/02/2017 15:02

'Apparently db names are now quite beloved of the criminal fraternity because of the freedom it can give them from Google whilst still being able to use the same ID docs etc.'

I had no idea. Interesting post if true (I'm not saying I doubt you at all I just haven't heard this before)

thornyhousewife · 05/02/2017 15:06

I agree with the OP. I think people have an unecessary and ego-centric attachment to their surnames.

What happens when this generation of double-barrelled kids get married in twenty years? Will they have four names? And their children?..

It's absurd.

MiladyThesaurus · 05/02/2017 15:07

I've got a hyphenated first name. I'm sure the OP wouldn't like that either.

I only go by the first part though.

QueenOfTheSardines · 05/02/2017 15:07

Not RTFT.

DH had a double barrel name when I met him. When we got married I took his name because despite being a crazed feminist I wanted any children to have the same surname as me (personal preference). Obviously we couldn't triple barrel as that would be ludicrous and TBH I always disliked double barrel names before as my parents went on about how crap they are (much like the OP!). It's a snobbery thing I think.

Actually just remembered when we got engaged we were there and my dad said "hope you aren't going to do a ridiculous double barrel name hahahahaha and everyone was like, um, he already has one Hmm (you dick).

Anyway so his surname was a massive long one so is a PITA but there we are. What irritates me is when people say so are you an X or a Y then (first bit or second bit) thinking they are being SUPER CLEVER and I'm like um neither I'm a Z.

Anyway. It's just a name who gives a toss. Also - like my parents - saying they are shit is a snobby thing I think. Like when people get exercised over "unusually spelt" or "made up" names and usually they're just being racist.

OhhBetty · 05/02/2017 15:08

What an unkind thing to post OP!

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VocalDuck · 05/02/2017 15:14

Ms Anne Smith-Jones-Warblequacker-Fletcher-Spooner-Smith-Harrison-Ford

I'd fucking love a name like that!

Me too! Grin

Mirador · 05/02/2017 15:15

Do you realise it's a mouthful and makes you look like you're trying to be some kind of lord or lady?

Yeah, I don't know how people cope with the mouthful...it's so weighty too, I mean it's all of 8 letters long, well 9 including the hyphen.

As for some kind of Lord or Lady, have a gander through here and see how many have double barrelled names compared to those who don't (and I mean their actual name too)

itsbetterthanabox · 05/02/2017 15:21

Thornyhousewife
Tell men to stop being so egocentric then and we won't have this 'problem'.
It's not ridiculous for not all women to want to just roll over and submit.
Google how they do it in Spain with double barrel names. It does not mean endless names, obviously.

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