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Don't put the phone down on this thread. Treat it with respect. It's the official Trump thread 8

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amispartacus · 02/02/2017 19:39

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2843068-The-official-Trump-thread-Its-true-It-is-No-its-not-The-President-said-it-is

Just to remind you that Trump put the phone down on had a heated conversation with the Australian PM

Has put Iran on notice

Threatened UC Berkeley with withdrawal of funds if they 'promote violence'

Said something about troops and Mexico

Sean Spicer currently lying talking to the press corps

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Weedsnseeds1 · 02/02/2017 22:07

8 pages already? Going to have to be tomorrow's read

Roussette · 02/02/2017 22:08

"Iran strategy talk is asking how to ensure that Iran eventually crosses "the line" before long to eventually justify POTUS military action"

This from RoguePOTUSStaff twitter a/c which makes no jokes, just seems factual. Not lots of tweets, explained by this..
"comment as frequently as can, due to expense of disposable devices & other limitations. Not disappearing, we continue our commitment to #resist "

GingerIvy · 02/02/2017 22:09

Some news personnel have said they think it's someone feeding misinformation, and that account hasn't been verified as someone actually in the know. Just FYI. I've been watching it too, but cautiously.

squishysquirmy · 02/02/2017 22:13

One of the (many) holes in the idea that "good guys" carrying guys can shoot the "bad guys" if a shooting starts, is how do you know which is which in a chaotic situation? Unless they could get the bad guys to wear black hats or something.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 02/02/2017 22:15

placemarking. Bigly

amispartacus · 02/02/2017 22:15

I would love to know how the fuck being gay means it's ok for someone who is religious to discriminate against you because of their belief system.

Sorry, you can't work for me. I'm a Christian and my faith does not accept gay people. So fuck off.

Replace the word 'gay'with 'black' and that's unacceptable.

The USA is going backwards. Obama seemed to be a blip, didn't he?

And then Trump has the liberty to talk about 'political correctness' after a prayer breakfast and yesterday, when he discussed Rosa Parks.

It's incredible.

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GingerIvy · 02/02/2017 22:15

squishy - I imagine their (flawed) theory is that the white guys are the good guys.... you know... cuz... well, because they're white....

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amispartacus · 02/02/2017 22:17

Unless they could get the bad guys to wear black hats or something

What does the 'bad dude' look like? Chances are they will look like an American.

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GingerIvy · 02/02/2017 22:17

CNN Politics ‏*@CNNPolitics* 7s8 seconds ago
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UN Ambassador Nikki Haley hits Russia hard on Ukraine cnn.it/2k62oXp

Hmmmm.... this is unexpected....

squishysquirmy · 02/02/2017 22:18

Not cats Zebra! I say that as a Yuuge cat person, and no one has more respect for cats than me, but I don't think cats have the human race's best interests at heart (gosh, they are cuddly though!) They would firmly put Felines First. From now on, it's going to be ONLY FELINES FIRST.

Lweji · 02/02/2017 22:18

If people with guns are needed to shoot down any slightly nutter mass shooter, don't they effectively end up with a... Mexican stand-off?

Roussette · 02/02/2017 22:18

I've no idea Ginger but it just seems a well managed twitter account with no ranting just facts, who knows!

Roussette · 02/02/2017 22:19

Lweji it's back to the wild west isn't it...

woman12345 · 02/02/2017 22:20

Obama seemed to be a blip, didn't he?
Elegy for Obama's presidency:

Lweji · 02/02/2017 22:21

Starting countdown to UN Ambassador Nikki Haley to be sacked.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2017 22:21

Teen Vogue has been getting high praise for their coverage.

www.teenvogue.com/story/mike-pence-celebrates-black-history-month-by-praising-a-white-man?mbid=social_twitter

squishysquirmy · 02/02/2017 22:21

I think you're right Ginger. If a black teenager can look threatening enough simply by walking down the street to warrant "defence" with deadly force, what action would be considered justified against a middle eastern looking person (legally) carrying a gun?

amispartacus · 02/02/2017 22:22

I imagine their (flawed) theory is that the white guys are the good guys.... you know... cuz... well, because they're white

Yes - open carry seems like a law that could go wrong. In the UK, anyone open carrying a weapon would face the police quickly.

But in the USA, open carry of weapons...

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squishysquirmy · 02/02/2017 22:22

You wouldn't even need a nutter present. Just a car backfiring could kick it all off.

saffronwblue · 02/02/2017 22:24

Has anyone got time to step away from this thread read Lionel Shriver's The Mandibles? It is a chilling dystopian novel, set in the very near future about life in the US after a complete economic meltdown. I can't stop thinking about it as it is so believeable about what institutions and civil behaviours melt away first.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2017 22:27

The thing is that laws vary. In AZ when I lived there, it was legal to carry a weapon, as long as it was in plain sight. It could not be hidden in any way as that was CCW - including under an untucked shirt. Additionally, you could have a gun sitting on the passenger seat of your car (but if you got pulled over that better be the first damn thing out of your mouth so they're aware!!) but if it's in the glove compartment/box or under your seat or even in the trunk/boot - CCW and you need a special permit.

We'd get calls all the time - someone walking down the street with a gun in a holster.
Us - is he threatening anyone?
Caller - no.
Us - is the gun in the holster or in his hand?
Caller - in the holster.

Then we had to explain that it was legal for someone to carry a gun and that if he threatened anyone or was acting aggressively, then we would respond but walking with gun was not something we could do anything about.

If there was anything else suspicious about his behaviour, then we'd check on it just in case.

GingerIvy · 02/02/2017 22:28

I have no reason whatsoever to believe the gun law in AZ has changed since then. It's been that way for years and years.

Chippednailvarnishing · 02/02/2017 22:28

Isolationist politics and "make America great again" remind me of North Korea.

SenecaFalls · 02/02/2017 22:28

I would love to know how the fuck being gay means it's ok for someone who is religious to discriminate against you because of their belief system.

This and much of the other stuff that has been going on will likely wind up in court so federal judges will probably be the ones ultimately sorting it out. That's one of the reasons that the ACLU had such a surge in their donations.

Lweji · 02/02/2017 22:30

Maybe gay should become a religion.
So they wouldn't be able to discriminate on religious grounds. Grin