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AIBU to think that people who don't have young children who park in parent and child spaces are selfish?

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Kjc105 · 01/02/2017 18:37

I was reading an article on the Daily Fail about a young couple with a baby who were left a note saying that parent and child spaces are for people with children (they were with their baby) but what annoyed me were people commenting under the article who were saying that they always park in parent and child even if there are other spaces available as they feel parents are entitled to too many things and why should they be inconvenienced by people having children. Is it me or is this totally selfish as the reason why those spaces are they are for the safety of the children, more space so other car doors aren't dented and closer to the store so it is generally safer for children and less likely for a child to be hit by a car. AIBU to think these people are selfish?

OP posts:
Spikeyball · 03/02/2017 10:51

The use of the word 'plenty' is offensive but I'm sure you already know that.

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 10:54

Lol ok guys. I'm making it up, really.Hmm

Yea because someone would never actually lie about being disabled would they. Yet I would come on a public forum and lie that I may possibly know people that have. Well I'm speechless! Whatever.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/02/2017 10:59

millions have been caught out.

Really millions

Any actual evidence of these millions that have been caught out using BB fraudulently.

no thought not

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Kjc105 · 03/02/2017 11:01

How has this turned into parent vs disabled users again?!!! I'm the OP and I was particularly talking about people who choose to use the space disregarding other people's need when they know full wel they don't need the extra space and justify it by saying 'parents are too entitled these days'. That's just not the case, these spaces are genuinely needed most of the time and I don't care how much people say they've done without them in the past, we've also done without modern medicine and technology!

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/02/2017 11:11

How has this turned into parent vs disabled users again?!!! I'm the OP and I was particularly talking about people who choose to use the space

You may be the OP, but you can't dictate what is said on a thread, as long as it is within MNHQ guidelines Wink

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 11:12

Piglet seriously?! I'm hardly suggesting unicorns can fly am i. You and many others are acting as though I am! Turn a blind eye then. Your not actually concerned with what's right and wrong at all, your concerned with being right. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this obsurd conversation. Each city has a team of fraud investigation officers, compliance officers and medical offices in place to catch out fakes. Hardly be worth the while doing if only little old Me in the world was deluded about it all. Benefit fraud is rife in every sector. Unfollowing this now, said by bit and obviously you disagree. Fine. But I've no intention of reading further comments, however do feel free to go ahead and bitch anyway. Always a given with keyboard warriors isn't it, as they rarely have valid points.. they just make conversations about them and a huge display of 'winning'. Play ground mindset springs to mind.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/02/2017 11:14

Your not actually concerned with what's right and wrong at all, your concerned with being right

Actually I am.

Posters ask you for evidence yet you give none.

You can't state throw away remarks and not expect to be challenged.

HTH

BooRadley35 · 03/02/2017 11:15

My pensioner mother was grabbed and verbally attacked in a supermarket (had bruises up her arm). This was due to another woman being outraged that she had dared to park in a P&C space. My mum had parked in a normal space but this woman saw a similar car in the P&C space and assumed it was my mum This woman made a scene, deeply embarrassed and hurt my mum. Once she realised she had made a mistake she didn't even apologise. My poor mum now goes to the supermarket at the crack of dawn to avoid any irate parking psycho's who feel its their duty to police P&C spaces.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 03/02/2017 11:22

Very entitled, brags about his lifestyle, luxuries, holidays etc.

Because we all know disabled people should live in a hovel and never have any luxuries at all. FFS funny it's attitudes like yours as to why it's hard to defend P&C spaces, as there's always someone who treats disabled people like they're the lucky ones because they get a few feet extra space to get out a car in a shop

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 03/02/2017 11:25

And massive LOL at the thought that disabled people get 'perks'. Can anyone tell me what perks these are as I have never seen any? You're lucky if there's a ramp to a toilet FFS. Oh the dizzy heights of luxury Brew

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 03/02/2017 11:25

That should've been Hmm

Original poster
Kjc105 · 03/02/2017 11:43

Piglet - did I say people weren't allowed to say what they want? I just don't understand how this has turned into a war between parents and disabled users?

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PurpleDaisies · 03/02/2017 12:02

I just don't understand how this has turned into a war between parents and disabled users?

It's posters saying things like this ...I think it's out of order someone with mobility issues thinks they have a right to these spaces tbh and suggesting that a large number of blue badge holders got them fraudulently.

People quite rightly don't want to let that go unchallenged.

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 12:18

Included a screen shot, for those who think my statistics are pulled from thin air and seemed to think no evidence could possibly exist. But yea i suspect the findings reported on thousands of news reports are discrimination and lies. By people such as me eh?

Op I'm really sorry if I derailed your post a bit. I do actually agree with you on the parenting bay thing and that was my original point. It's not one set of vulnerable people vs another.

AIBU to think that people who don't have young children who park in parent and child spaces are selfish?
Sirzy · 03/02/2017 12:19

So the most up to date "evidence" you can find is from 2010?

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 12:24

Omg, Sirzy. There is more, go do the leg work and read for yourself rather then making this about what I say. Go read for yourself and decide for yourself. Enough said.

Sirzy · 03/02/2017 12:24

I don't need to, I know just how hard it is to get a blue badge thanks. I know how hard life is for disabled people and that they don't need people like you with their "facts" making things harder!

PurpleDaisies · 03/02/2017 12:25

funny you're the one making claims about disabled people abusing the blue badge system. The onus is on you to prove you're not talking rubbish.

Reality16 · 03/02/2017 12:33

Your article doesn't even back up what you were saying. You were talking about people having badges who don't need them. Your little picture is about MISUSE of BB's - misuse can be as simple as the genuine holder not being present, or parking in a loading bay ffs.

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 12:33

Sirzy it's probably hard for truly disabled people to get a badge as so many fakes have and do exploit the system, that was my point and they spoil what is in place to help those that genuinely need it.

Purple what on earth are you talking about? I don't have to prove anything. If you don't believe me then that's your perrogative. But I don't owe you any explanation, if your interested, find out for yourself. FML I'm flabbergasted and genuinely laughing at your response.

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 12:35

Reality. Seriously?! Hmm

Misuse is a broad term.

PurpleDaisies · 03/02/2017 12:36

You're flabbergasted at being asked for some evidence to back up your claim that disabled people regularly abuse the system? I'm amazed that you find that unreasonable. Hmm

If I said that fraud levels in blue badges is as low as 0.1% of all users, what would you say?

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 12:40

Purple have you read my posts? I said none disabled people abusing the system. My whole point was they are taking away valuable resources and making the system unfair for disabled people who genuinely need said resources. How could disabled people possibly abuse the system? That makes no sense. But as I will repeat, I don't need to back up my claims. If your not interested in what I believe is a genuine problem, just bloody ignore me. But don't demand explanations as you aren't getting any. I will explain what I see fit, as part of an adult discussion on a forum. I don't how down to demands.

PurpleDaisies · 03/02/2017 12:44

I have read your posts. The idea that there are millions of non disabled people able to claim benefits for disabled people, including blue badges, is ludicrous.

Since you aren't capable of producing any evidence to back up your claims, nobody is going to deem them worthy of any consideration.

It's incredibly naive to expect to just say what you want without being asked what the factual basis for your assertions is.

Funnyonion17 · 03/02/2017 12:47

Purple. As I've said, if your interested. Go read up on statistics and reports yourself. I don't need to win over strangers on the internet with what I believe is true, nor do I have any intention of dragging this out further. It's boring now.