DH won't denounce Trump. AIBU to expect him to?

[FabulousUsername]

Just wondering if anyone else has encountered this. I haven't been very politically involved in the past but I have a keen sense of right and wrong and I detest Trump's bullying ways. And most everything he says, I'm sure there is no need to explain the revulsion I feel about his leadership. DH would say, at a push, that he's a bit of a monster but that he has a point, that he's a guy who gets things done, he knows 'how the world works'.

I'm seeing patriarchy everywhere...and I feel really aggrieved that H tacitly supports the view that it is our destiny. As a bit of backstory, he does belittle my work and (I now realise) looks down on women generally. For example, joking about men trading in wives for younger models like Trump-- clever guy, eh (me with bored sarcastic eye roll). I've responded to this by saying that the door is open and if he wants to trade me in he's welcome to. But he insists its banter and all men talk like that and that I can't take a joke. Old stuff, really, but in the context of the Trump presidency it suddenly seems crucial for him to realise that this sort of joke isn't acceptable. Not one bit. And it isn't funny to joke about me wanting to march in protest to Trump. I keep thinking he will change and be on my side, so to speak, but so far no sign of it.

Would you choose to 'agree to disagree'? Or would the thought of being married to a Trump apologist be a dealbreaker?

Sorry, posted before finishing.

"DH would say, at a push, that he's a bit of a monster but that he has a point, that he's a guy who gets things done, he knows 'how the world works'."
Purely an aside - Trump does not know how the world works. He has surrounded himself with sycophants and yes-men for years, he has no idea how a world he doesn't control through his payroll works.

The OP has asked if she should stay with her OH because of DT. I'm sure she wants all views, not just those where people agree with each other

And yet you're here lecturing people on how to use words that you thought didn't exist until we kindly explained.

And the answer to the OP is obvious. She should get rid of the epic twat.

Oops, no idea why that posted three times! Sorry folks.

It's up to you, but it looks like you disagree fundamentally in your views about men and women.

DH would say, at a push, that he's a bit of a monster but that he has a point, that he's a guy who gets things done, he knows 'how the world works'.

How is he a "monster" but "has a point"? Can he explain?

How do his opinions about men/women in general affect your relationship?
Do you feel valued? Do you have equal say, equal financial responsibilities and rights?

whatisthepointofmorgan

...you've never been involved in political activity, have you? It's amazing. Conversation is allowed, and there's breaks and everything. It isn't, despite what you might think, some sort of gulag where you are chained to the placard-making machinery.

Anyway, I'm bored with you. You seem to not be able to understand other people except as a precise reflection of yourself. You do nothing, and sneer at everybody else, so you imagine everyone else is as helpless and as cynical as you. You can't imagine anyone being able to work on more than one thing at a time. You can't imagine that people have multiple online lives and offline lives and still manage to earn a living. It's amazing, but they do.

You're talking to people about devaluing a word you'd never heard of until today? Please stop, its painful.

Exactly!
'That's not a word.'
'OK, it is a word, but it's stupid and you're a twat for using it.'
'I feel concerned that you're devaluing this word.'

Glad you're being consistent. Now we've established that 'whataboutery' is a simultaneously made-up, stupid and precious word, did you specify your valuable work ending the caste system in India, financial inequality in Mexico and animal cruelty in China? Or are you, like the fine gentleman who trolled the Women's March page with pictures of beheaded Saudi women (they are REALLY REALLY worried about Saudi women, and expressed great concern that a bunch of stupid feminazi cunts in this country would open their stupid mouths about anything), simply trying to shut people up?

Or is there a global priority list we should be adhering to? Nobody's allowed to protest Trump until issues 1-27,720 are resolved to your satisfaction? I'd actually consider 'previously stable country descending into authoritarian-style leadership and mass protests' to be fairly high up the scale of concern, but it sounds like you're an expert on everything wrong in the world, so we'll await your approval.

I always thought 'cockacidal maniac' was a Shaun of the Dead reference? Perhaps I have led a sheltered life.

I always thought 'cockacidal maniac' was a Shaun of the Dead reference? Perhaps I have led a sheltered life.

Someone used it on a thread a long time ago, so I pinched it.

Lots to say for someone who's bored.

Words of advice. Less is more

I'm bored with you.
We'll agree to be bored.
As you were.

I always thought 'cockacidal maniac' was a Shaun of the Dead reference? Perhaps I have led a sheltered life

But I've just looked it up, and you're indeed correct. All this time, and I didn't realise.

Oh, I've got plenty more to say, whatisthepointofmorgan.

How about this: why don't you talk about something you've done to make the world better? I am sure we are all agog to hear it.

I think you are being unreasonable to use Trump as an excuse to end your marriage, yes.

Jump off the bandwagon

I think you are being unreasonable to use Trump as an excuse to end your marriage, yes

Her husbands a dick anyway, she doesn't need an excuse. Supporting Trump is just a rather massive final nail in his coffin.

I am sure we are all agog to hear it.

Shouldn't that be I would like to hear it?

Why do you say 'we' out of interest?

The fact you say 'we' just goes to prove that you are a very closed minded person with an 'us against them' mentality. The use of 'we' towards an individual, also smacks of bullying nature.

This thread isn't all about you.
The OP has a question about her marriage. I'm sure she wants the inmput of everybody.

And yet you aren't giving any input to the Op, you're just wittering about not much at all. Pot, kettle.....

Yes, it might just be a bandwagon thing. I might try to have a proper argument with him about it rather than grumbling and seething behind his back.

Ah, yes, the "bullying" accusation from someone who constantly sneers at other people, but is unable to answer any actual points.

whatisthepointofmorgan appears to be going for a full house on the derailing bingo card.

FabulousUsername

Is this really about Trump, or your relationship?

OP
Try not to go in straight with an argument, see if you can find a time when it's calm and you can both try to talk calmly, it may not last but it may be easier to talk about the things that upset you and how it makes you feel when certain things are done/said, and it will give him chance to put across his side too.

I think everyone deserves a chance to learn when they do something wrong, else they never get chance to rectify it and change. If they choose not to change that is their right, but at least the chance was given, and yes I have done this very thing very recently. Good luck OP.

And the answer to the OP is obvious. She should get rid of the epic twat.

Basically telling a stranger on the internet she should LTB.

Because he doesn't share the same political view as her.
Okay.

whatisthepointofmorgan appears to be going for a full house on the derailing bingo card.

Great we're playing Bullshit Bingo!

I just need someone to say Brexit's Ruined My Life and I'll have a full house as well.

Try to RTFT. I can see you are simplistic, but its obvious there is more to it than that. You can probably understand if you read slowly.

I can see you are simplistic
You can probably understand if you read slowly.

Do yourself (and others) a favor.
Do not, under any circumstances ever get a job working with children or adults with learning difficulties.

Thanks for the advice, but do you have any comment for the OP, or are you just going to keep rambling?