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It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.

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amispartacus · 28/01/2017 12:04

Follow up from previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2837382-Donald-Trump-the-first-week-is-BAD-What-next-Come-all-ye-Beautifuls?

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BigBadgers · 29/01/2017 12:17

Phew! It's OK everyone. Boris says it's not nice to stigmatise. I'm sure Trump is thinking twice now. Hmm

Everytimeref · 29/01/2017 12:19

Horrified at what's happening.

BigBadgers · 29/01/2017 12:20

Apparently Merkel has been explaining the basic principles of the Geneva convention to Trump during g their phone call. I hope she did it in easy to understand words of no more than 2 syllables.

“The Geneva Refugee Convention requires the international community to take in war refugees on humanitarian grounds. All signatory states are obligated to do. The German government explained this policy in their call yesterday.”
www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jan/29/donald-trump-us-travel-ban-refugees-airports

Lweji · 29/01/2017 12:22

On a slightly lighter note, The Guardian are running this counter

It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.
BigBadgers · 29/01/2017 12:22

One of the Google founders has been protesting

Ryan Mac ✔ @RMac18
Google cofounder Sergey Brin at SFO protest: "I'm here because I'm a refugee."

originalmavis · 29/01/2017 12:23

First we need to gag Farage.

amispartacus · 29/01/2017 12:23

Where do you even start with the next White House Press conference?

Does the Geneva Convention not apply to the USA?

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Lweji · 29/01/2017 12:23

I can imagine the next Executive Order is to repeal the Geneva Convention. Hmm

BigBadgers · 29/01/2017 12:25

Just a reminder, for those who can't make the protest tomorrow there is one being planned for next Saturday as well

m.facebook.com/events/1761835547477556/

ChuffChu · 29/01/2017 12:29

We have the concentration camps to look forward to

No, no, no. They will be 'relocation' or 'vetting' camps. Merely a way to keep those dirty forriners from hurting pure bred Americans (well the ones that have managed to avoid getting shot by other pure bred Americans anyway)

It will be a lovely place where the dodgy forriners will be fed and looked after until they can be 'sent home'.

Then someone will have the bright idea that why there are waiting they might as well be put to work.

A while after that I imagine the public will be frothed up about how much pure bred Americans taxes are being used to feed these luxury camps of the second class citizens.

Guess what bright idea might occur to someone then?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 12:35

I still want to know when we're going to ban lawnmowers in the US. Dangerous things!! I'm still traumatised after watching my mother run over a snake with a lawnmower (about 15 times!!) when I was a child. On the up side, as it was an area that had poisonous snakes, I don't really blame her. I'd have done the same. Grin

Spudlet · 29/01/2017 12:35

I also did some cribbing - this is my email:

I am writing to you about an issue too important to be ignored: namely, the current state of affairs in the US and our Government's reaction to it.

You will be aware that Mr Trump's ban on immigration from a number of countries on the grounds of prevention of terrorism has caused protests across the USA and has drawn global condemnation. Many thousands of innocent people have found their lives thrown into chaos by this racist and morally indefensible act. In addition, it affects a number of British citizens who hold dual nationality or who were born in those countries: not least of all your Parliamentary colleague, the MP for Stratford upon Avon and our much celebrated Olympian Mo Farah.

Mrs May's extreme reluctance to comment on this was simply shameful. Seeing a British Prime Minister having to have a statement dragged out of her was embarrassing - even more so given the weakness of her comments. According to the BBC website, she eventually stated that she does "not agree" with Donald Trump's refugee ban and will appeal to the US "if it affects British citizens". Are we to surmise that racist policies acceptable to her if the citizens involved are not British? This is not good enough.

How can we possibly talk about British values if we are not courageous enough to condemn this in the strongest possible terms? And how can young Muslims - many of whom already feel marginalised - believe that they are truly part of this country when their own government will not condemn this despicable attack on their innocent co-religionists?

We are in tremendous danger from this horrific state of affairs and I hope the Conservative Parliamentary Party will make it clear to the Prime Minister that we have a moral duty to tell the Americans that no trade deals will be forthcoming with such a repugnant US Administration: one that silences its scientists, encourages religious and racial hatred and wishes to remove women's rights to reproductive medicine - especially as we are most unlikely to benefit from any agreement that enables US companies to move in on the NHS or lower our food safety standards. There will be no credit in being a global leader if that lead is to fascism.

My son is one year old, and I am fearful for his future. In years to come, I do not want him to ask why I did nothing, when I foresaw a slide towards fascism. I will stand up to be counted.

I ask you to examine your own conscience too.

Yours sincerely,

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 12:36

Wait a minute... press conference??

originalmavis · 29/01/2017 12:37

Where?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 12:44

Maybe I should write a MN style letter...

Dear MP -

AIBU to think that the UK should tell Donald Trump to FOTTFSOF??

Perhaps we could encourage a more honest dialogue towards him from Theresa May. Might I suggest "Did you mean to be so rude?" Failing that, I suggest she opt straight for "Are you on glue??!?!"

HTH.

Grin
BigBadgers · 29/01/2017 12:44

Mo Farah has issued a statement

"I am a British citizen who has lived in America for the past six years - working hard, contributing to society, paying my taxes and bringing up our four children in the place they now call home.

Now, me and many others like me are being told that we may not be welcome. It’s deeply troubling that I will have to tell my children that Daddy might not be able to come home - to explain why the President has introduced a policy that comes from a place of ignorance and prejudice.”

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 12:45

Thomas RidVerified account
‏*@RidT*

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Incredible: within ~2h30m, the petition to prevent Trump from making a UK State Visit got more than 100K signatures petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

BigBadgers · 29/01/2017 12:46

Dear Prime Minister May,

I would like to remind you that 'no' is a complete answer and also that you can't reason with batshit crazy...

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 12:46

Jake Tapper ‏*@jaketapper* 2m2 minutes ago
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Jake Tapper Retweeted Michael Flynn Jr
You literally wrote "temporary #Muslimban necessary, folks" -- that's not just a hashtag. #factsmatter

twitter.com/mflynnjr/status/825451381674893313

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 12:47

lol Badgers

Michael Flynn Jr engaged in a losing verbal battle with CNN reporter

amispartacus · 29/01/2017 12:47

105,000 signatures

Just to remind people

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LonelyImSoLonely · 29/01/2017 12:48

Apologies acrossthepond and others who corrected me about the having to be a Christian thing to be the president. Don't know where I got it from, but have thought that for the last 10years, so pre social media fake news stories!

In other news, an American friend of a friend on Facebook thinks the ban on American citizens re-entering the country is a good thing!

There are 20 protesters in the baggage are gonna get booted at Buffalo airport

They have signs and are screaming "NO KKK. NO TRUMP."
..and......they are all white lmfao.
When did white people get so stupid. They pick an area to get arrested at :/

Iran just banned Americans from traveling there cuz "they are mad at Trump".
Shucks. There goes my vacation !^

Genuinely can't understand that if you are white, why you aren't pro trump and anti-Muslim. It's horrendous.

Peregrina · 29/01/2017 12:49

I gather that Mo Farah is abroad at the moment, so he might well not be able to get home. Although they might make an exception for someone so high profile.

TheElementsSong · 29/01/2017 12:50

Good on Mo Farrah!

GrouchyKiwi · 29/01/2017 12:50

The Trump supporters on my Facebook have gone quiet.

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