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has anyone moved abroad because of brexit result ?

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pipsqueak25 · 26/01/2017 18:18

and if you have, how is your new life settling in ? maybe some people were thinking of going before it happened and this was the 'final straw'.
do you miss your old life ? what is better for you now ?
am really interested to know, but don't want to get on the debate bit of brexit there are other threads on here for that right now.

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Draylon · 02/02/2017 22:04

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FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 02/02/2017 22:05

Read MrsLupo post upthread about the difference in being in a country where you are on the outside vs one where you are privy to its demise. If you can't understand this concept then that's a shame as it answers most of these things that baffle you so.

whatsthepointofmorgan · 02/02/2017 22:06

^I know a few doctors who are doing so.
A combination of factors, but it's kinda sealed the deal. sad
Lots of drs from the EU here, or their spouses.
They're all going to Canada/NZ/Oz.^

Highly skilled people like doctors will likely get in anywhere.
However, ordinary Joe Bloggs on the street with dreams of going to Oz or Canada or NZ isn't going to get the Welcome Mat laid out for them.
It's cruel to encourage people to believe otherwise.

whatsthepointofmorgan · 02/02/2017 22:08

It could be argued that countries like Oz will welcome skilled-in-the-right-job immigrants, especially bearing in mind that the very sort of people who are even prepared to leave, to take the risk, uproot, leave everything they know in order to excitedly emigrate- might be the very sort of people recipient-countries value.

Brexit is a gift to Australia, NZ, Canada.

It would be great if that were true. I really wish it was, but I very much doubt it.

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follygirl · 02/02/2017 22:14

I'm in the middle of sorting out what I need for my residence card. I have been here for 40 years: school, degree, worked for 9 years and now a full-time mum.

One horrible rule is that if you are 'self-sufficient' so either retired or a stay at home parent you need to have private medical insurance for at least 5 years. My mum who has lived here for 30 years and who has assets of about £1 million cannot get a residence card because she has only had it for 18 months. If we leave in March 2019, she will have had insurance for 3.5 years so I really worry what is going to happen to her.

I also have to list every time I've left England in the last 40 years! How on earth am I going to remember all that! It's all complete madness. 😔

whatsthepointofmorgan · 02/02/2017 22:15

Really, what is the average standard of living in each country? Can you be half way down the table yet live in a big house, with 2 cars, affordable health care/education, in clean non-polluted cities, in a stable economy? Far better standard of living than many 'above' you? Whose young emigrate to get that lifestyle?

A lot of people who emigrate to Australia don't make it and end up having to come back again.
They're usually the ones who think they can jump off the plane and land themselves a big house, with a big pool and a big car straight away.
They don't realise there's a little thing called 'having to work for it'.
It can take 10 years or more of hard graft (and luck) before you get anywhere near having a 'luxury lifestyle.
Even Australians who have lived there all their lives don't always get to that standard of living.

WrongTrouser · 02/02/2017 22:16

Guess who'll be left behind?

Oh no!! Don't let all the superior people go and just leave all us inadequates behind. What will we dooooo.....

follygirl · 02/02/2017 22:17

And to answer the question, no I don't want to leave but I will if I have to.

GreatScot8 · 02/02/2017 22:18

Really? Must let the family in Sydney, Brisbane and Perth know immediately.

Er, we have. We've had 5 Prime Ministers in 5 years. I doubt highly that Malcolm Turnbull will see out his term. Both sides of politics are full of weak, spiteful shits who've no idea how to run a country. Our economy is teetering on the edge of recession, and the politicians are getting more out of touch by the day.

user1471448556 · 02/02/2017 22:20

Had plans to move to Italy or Germany once kids were at uni, but that won't be possible now as we wouldn't be able to afford private health care and we may not be able to stay indefinitely once we're fully out. Gutted at the lack of opportunity and freedoms now facing us and our kids. Truly wish we hadn't moved back to the UK from Germany to have our kids back in 2006. If we'd had them there they would still have EU citizenship :-(. Naively took our freedoms for granted.

Draylon · 02/02/2017 22:20

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whatsthepointofmorgan · 02/02/2017 22:31

I've had experience of living in two different countries (12 years and 5) and the difficulties face with settling down.
The pros and the cons.
I have noticed that most countries hated Whinging Poms as we are not so affectionately known, especially the Australians.
I have to agree with them, there is nothing worse than a Brit moaning about his/her country 24/7.

You never hear other Nationalities complaining non-stop about their country, no matter how dire the place.
Only us.

GreatScot8 · 02/02/2017 22:37

I'm sure all Australians know that we've had political instability for 10 years now.

I'm not arguing that the UK isn't also up shit creek, but I think the idea that people are leaving the UK for X, Y, Z reason to come to Australia is laughable, as Australia is only fractionally better in some respects, and worse in others.

I'm well aware of why the Australian economy is teetering, and it's not just down to China. But that is irrelevant to this conversation.

I'm Australian. I live in rural NSW.

Don't get me wrong, I love living here and I doubt I'd move anywhere else in a hurry, but I don't understand the desire to move from the relatively similar UK to here? Almost everything about our country has been modeled on those systems already in place in the UK, after all.

WrongTrouser · 02/02/2017 22:59

You can call those left behind 'inadequates' if you like trousers

No, I'm wasn't (there was a clue in the "us"). It was a sarcastic comment on your seeming superiority complex and your suggestion that we will be left bereft of anyone of any value.

Also, for some people (and I realise this may be controversial) there is more to life than money.

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libertydoddle · 02/02/2017 23:01

We're moving later this year. I'm Irish, DH is Kiwi. We're going to NZ. We've been considering it for ages but Brexit has sealed the deal. We don't expect to be better off but at least we'll have sunshine and beautiful scenery while the western world implodesGrin

Draylon · 02/02/2017 23:07

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WrongTrouser · 02/02/2017 23:12

I disagree with you there Draylon I think a lot of people voted for non-economic as well as economic reasons.

Draylon · 02/02/2017 23:30

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WrongTrouser · 02/02/2017 23:32

No.

And I think I'll leave it there.

Draylon · 02/02/2017 23:41

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HelenaGWells · 02/02/2017 23:42

We intended to and then fucking Trump happened. Currently staying here in the lesser of two evils...