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has anyone moved abroad because of brexit result ?

223 replies

pipsqueak25 · 26/01/2017 18:18

and if you have, how is your new life settling in ? maybe some people were thinking of going before it happened and this was the 'final straw'.
do you miss your old life ? what is better for you now ?
am really interested to know, but don't want to get on the debate bit of brexit there are other threads on here for that right now.

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Klaphat · 27/01/2017 00:28

I was already living in Denmark. I applied for citizenship shortly after the referendum. According to the press there has been an increase in applications from Brits.

I'll probably apply for citizenship if I ever manage to meet the criteria for permanent residence first (on a non-EU permit for practical reasons). Brexit will certainly make any thoughts of moving back to the UK an interesting exercise.

Redactio · 27/01/2017 00:34

British criminals used to move to Spain long before the EU fucked everything up and made them vulnerable to capture by UK law enforcement agencies.
I'm sure that when the dust settles migration will carry on as it has always done.

Redactio · 27/01/2017 00:39

Scottishdiem,
I'm sorry that your DH has been forced out of Scotland due to rascism and xenophobia. The SNP has a lot to answer for and things aren't getting any better.

Bloopbleep · 27/01/2017 00:57

Redacto read what scottishdiem said it was home office and NOT people in Scotland ffs.

PickledCauliflower · 27/01/2017 01:03

No. I've not moved or am I moving abroad.

scottishdiem · 27/01/2017 01:40

Oh dear Redacto. My DP is a member of the SNP (I am a Scottish Green) and we campaigned for independence. We have found Scotland to be open and tolerant (to be fair, thats the case in most of the UK as well). It is the racisim and xenophobia driven by Daily Mail and Daily Express readers that have created an immigration policy situation that is full of hate. The SNP did actually ask the UK government if there could be some element of Scottish only/controlled immigration (works in places like Canada and Australia) but the UK government declined. I think that the SNP offers an answer on our immigration issues rather than having something to answer for. I do hope it does get better which will only come via independence.

(demographically Scotland has a population that is aging faster than the rest of the UK. From an independence referndum point of view this does cause legitimate finanical questions. From an economic and social point of view, Westminster is leaving Scotland to become old, poor and dependent on UK handouts to cover these liabilities. One study for Scottish Councils (not fans of the Scottish Government) has shown that by around 2035 every young person leaving school will be needed in the older peoples care sector - this shows the decline of the workforce and the rise in older people living longer.)

user1481838270 · 27/01/2017 01:40

Redactio was being deliberately misleading and nasty.

Scottishdiem was very clear in what she wrote.

MrsLupo · 27/01/2017 01:46

We will go but can't yet, realistically, because the DCs are all the wrong ages for radical changes in their schooling. Assuming Brexit does actually go ahead, we're operating on a 4-year plan. In the time between now and then, we need to sort out house/work/finances optimally. We're both self-employed, fortunately, so have a reasonable degree of control over work. We'll be making choices with a move to Ireland in mind, although I wouldn't rule out an onward move to elsewhere in the EU eventually. We are mainly motivated by a belief that the character of life in the UK is going to change for the worse - I think it's already happening tbh. For that reason, although I very much hope that talk of UK citizens being able to retain 'associate' EU citizenship does come to fruition, I think we would still leave even so. That said, I think the character of life in all sorts of places is going down the toilet at a previously unanticipated rate, so when it comes to it we may feel we're just as well staying put. DP, more than me, has an emotional attachment to the UK as 'home', which may feature in any such decision. I've lived all over the place and don't care, though I could do without the upheaval for sure.

But the best outcome would be if the country - in particular the Commons - would wake up to the fact that Brexit really, really needs to be stopped in its tracks now before it's too late. I don't accept the referendum result as democratically valid, still less as a binding instruction that needs no revisiting. As the wise Brian Eno succinctly put it today, 'Democracy assumes an informed public: it doesn't work if the media are corrupt.'

scottishdiem · 27/01/2017 01:48

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Weather - just like Glasgow to be honest. Three types of weather. Before rain, during rain and after rain. A bit warmer than Edinburgh as the wind isnt coming off the North Sea.

Life Style - not bad. A smidgen pricey but we are in the middle of the capital city and a lot of it very walkable due to being flat. Will get better in town when the two tram lines are actually joined (they built two but left them a good walk apart for some reason). See attached image. Lots of places to eat, things to do, places to go. Better than Edinburgh outside of Festival time anyway.

People are very friendly and there are a large number of people from different countries here.

Would recommend it. I will probably find it harder to get a decent job than DP though because my experience is very Scottish specific for the most part. DP is a fully qualified and experienced professional to international standards that are in demand.

has anyone moved abroad because of brexit result ?
Nickname1980 · 27/01/2017 06:18

Yep. Very good friend of mine (British, brought up here) moved to the Netherlands. Another to Berlin. Both were being offered work in those countries pre-Brexit but moved because they didn't like where the Uk was going. Likely they would have stayed if Brexit hadn't happened.

We are contemplating NZ. I don't know if we will as I don't want to leave family behind.

Capricorn76 · 27/01/2017 07:02

I also know of a fair few people who are doing a 'wait and see' who have access to other passports should they become necessary. I think the country will see a large reduction in tax receipts as the educated, mobile and young emigrate. The country will find it very hard to recover then. My DH remarks on the large numbers of Greeks that work for his firm, people who could've benefitted the Greek economy. Once your tax base goes it's a downward spiral.

I also fear for people with non-British backgrounds. Scapegoats will be required when Brexit results in lower living standards of those who voted for it.

Justanothernameonthepage · 27/01/2017 08:51

I'm expecting my company to move to Europe (factory that requires raw material from Europe and mainly exports items that would be tariff free under WTO so makes sense to move) so hoping that I may be offered relocation/redundancy package. DH works in an industry where there is strong demand for his skills, so once we know where is most likely we can start learning the language. The worst will be moving DC away from family that they are close to, But I want to live in a country with human rights and healthcare, both of which I believe that Brexit will destroy. My Brexit voting DM is devestated that we're planning on moving and taking her GC though.

Justanothernameonthepage · 27/01/2017 08:56

Both DH and I are engineers btw, so two qualified educated workers in an industry that is undermanned already in the UK and the only engineers/architects we know who aren't looking/planning on leaving are those over 50 who are counting down to retirement or who for current family reasons can't move. The skill shortage isn't going to get any better in the next 10 years if our personal experience is even slightly representative.

Pluto30 · 27/01/2017 09:04

If Scotland does follow the UK out of the EU and the single market, they have discussed moving to Norway.

How will this make a difference? Norway isn't a part of the EU, and has no intentions of ever becoming a member.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 27/01/2017 09:06

scottishdiem - as an Irish MNetter, who lives in Dublin, I extend a cead mile failte to you!

I'm genuinely surprised that there are fewer people on this thread that I would have thought. The Irish passport office issued over 700,000 passports last year - a 41% rise in applications from Britain and 27% rise in applications from Northern Ireland.

I heard on the news that Barclays are moving a part of their financial operations to Dublin and I believe that there will be others who follow suit. Ireland seems the logical place to move if a move is on the cards as we are still within the EU as we speak the same language and drive on the same side of the road (to name a few and I'm sure there are more and better reasons but until I've had my morning coffee my brain hasn't kicked into gear) Smile

squishysquirmy · 27/01/2017 09:06

I'd consider it, if I had a job to go to in Europe, but would wait to see what happens in Dutch and French elections first.
My sister, who already lives in an EU country, and whose small child was born there is now pretty much trapped there, and worried about pensions etc. My mum, who voted leave, and would love her daughter and grandchild to live closer does not really understand this, and goes on about EU immigrants having access to British services whilst seeming completely oblivious that members of her family are also reliant on access to services (healthcare etc) within a foreign country.

JournosAreLazy · 27/01/2017 09:11

Jamie Oliver is still here. He was never done with threatening to leave the U.K. If the leave vote got the majority. It was just empty words from a lot of people.

Heatherbell1978 · 27/01/2017 09:13

We're emigrating to Australia from Scotland next year. We'd already started thinking about it and done some scoping out of visas but after the vote in June we decided that we'd definitely go, that coupled with the uncertainty about Scottish independence and what it could mean for Scotland if the Yes vote won. We're keeping our options open and may return but with 2 very young children (well one hasn't yet arrived!) we'd like to offer them the chance of something (hopefully) better

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 09:27

We are on the wait and see list.

We have the option to get EU passports but we already have dual UK and British.

Don't want to uproot the DCs just yet. As Lupo said, the best outcome would be the death of Brexit, which is still a possibility.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 09:29

WhatchaMaCalllit I have several friends who put in application for their Irish passports. They, like us, are on the wait and see list. One of them quit his full time employment to work full time towards halting Brexit.

MrsGB2225 · 27/01/2017 09:29

It's looking more likely that we will have to move when the banks move. Sad

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 09:29

Er, dual USA & Britsh!

NewUserName01 · 27/01/2017 09:35

No but husband is applying for German citizenship for him and the kids (I'm not eligible). He would never have thought of it if it wasn't for Brexit.

Maddaddam · 27/01/2017 09:43

We are planning to, but can't at the moment as have dc going through secondary school exams for several years. But DP has moved job to one with a European headquarters, so that we can move there in future.

It is really complicated though, as others have noted, as we are unlikely to know for several years the details of post-brexit residency and what will be possible.

I'm an academic and many academics are making arrangments (applying for passports, residency etc) - it takes a while and the situation is so uncertain. But we are certainly trying to move "back" into the EU.

Ratonastick · 27/01/2017 09:53

I'm on the wait and see list too. My job is pretty international and there is every indication that the company will relocate. It's a specialist field and one that looks like it will exit the UK en masse so I will have little choice. It will be hard to retrain and build a new career in my late 40s so I will go with the work. The really bitch for the UK is that around 75% of the workforce in my field are high rate tax payers so why we are being chased over the channel is unclear.

On a grimly amusing note, a friend is being head hunted for the Brexit team in Westminster. He is eminently qualified and experienced for the role and will, I hope, get the job. He will be a great asset and will take the job as there is little work in his field near his home. His home is Rome!! I am not enjoying the irony that we are hiring Italians who will come to the UK under the EU free movement rules to manage our Brexit process.

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