has anyone moved abroad because of brexit result ?

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and if you have, how is your new life settling in ? maybe some people were thinking of going before it happened and this was the 'final straw'.
do you miss your old life ? what is better for you now ?
am really interested to know, but don't want to get on the debate bit of brexit there are other threads on here for that right now.

We haven't moved, but have discussed the prospect as we don't like where the UK seems to be heading and the behaviour of society that appears to have been validated by the referendum result.

Because of work we will be here until at least 2019. My DH was essentially offered a job in Dublin last autumn and although he wouldn't be able to take that on until 2019, they still seem keen. He is Irish, so by default my kids are also entitled to move there, it would be me that owuld be the problem- but it is so tempting. My DM who will be widowed in the not too distant future is also strongly considering making the move with us so we are able to care for her in her dotage.

The only negative we can really see is being further away from the rest of my family, but in reality, the available transport links might actually make it easier to see them.

It's good to see the positive comments about living in Dublin here as well!

I do know of a family moving to mainland Europe as a result of the referendum. One of them was born in the country they are moving to. The other is English born and bred but 'the wrong colour'. Day after the result was told to 'fuck off home'. 😡

Agreed, what passport/citizenships you hold is definitely an emotional as well as practical thing, which is exactly why so many Brits are distraught at losing their European status and freedom of movement within the EU, even though many of us might well not have utilised it had none of this happened.

Also agree with what hens said about not being able to put this nastiness back in the box - not just xenophobia and intolerance, but also a kind of shift in national values, placing qualities like greed, status, sharp-elbowedness above compassion, inclusion, culture and knowledge. I suspect these values always underpinned British life, which is why we always treated the EU as a vehicle for trade rather than a political and cultural project. But now they seem to have burst out into the public domain like some kind of deranged jack-in-the-box with a machine gun. Hard to know how to heal and repair this even leaving aside the practicalities of Brexit.

NoDownTime I read a great blog from a dude at the London School of Economics about EU academics based in the UK applying for permanent residency. It looks like one great fiasco and will ultimately decimate higher education and research in this country.

One can only hope that long term UK domiciled EU folks will be allowed to remain on the terms they believed would be available to them.

But the more former foreigners become British citizens with the right to take part in decisions which determine the fate of the country, the more British landscape will change...I honestly had only one bad experience here, when I was told to go where I came from (and I had two of my British children with me at the time), thankfully it happened when I already lived here for a decade so my reaction was a mixture of shock and desire to laugh out loud! If it had happened in my first year I might have been quite traumatised...
Everyone (native) around me who witnessed it was far more shocked and outraged on my behalf than I myself was! I felt like saying I am as much of a local as you are, love, where do you want me to go?(it was an old belligerent woman who attacked me out of the blue on overhearing my conversation with a market stallholder). My poor husband nearly had a heart attack when he heard about it afterwards. But you come across uneducated, narrow-minded and unfriendly people anywhere, they are always hard work...I just dismissed it.

At the same time, a lot of my family and dear friends voted for Brexit, and I completely understand and never took it as 'foreigners are unwelcome' thing....people had their reasons, primarily(among my family) not believing in the European parliament's power above us.

I am actually very grateful to this country(even though I had better material quality of life in my birth country!) and feel very at home here, applying for British citizenship was an emotional decision as well because I feel more British now than my birth nationality anyway, and think in English etc. To me a lot is about what you choose to notice and appreciate. You also can choose to be defensive and notice negative things. I honestly cannot say there is an 'atmosphere' where I live. If anything, people are going out of their way to compensate for the Brexit by trying to be extra friendly to those who might sound or appear non-native!

I don't understand why doesn't everyone who worries about their future(esp. people with British spouses) just apply for citizenship, surely it's easier than moving?

Not necessarily.

With Brexit, many jobs and opportunites will leave the UK as approximately half of the UK's exports currently go to the EU. For many people it will be easier to move with these jobs.

That is why so many Britons are applying for second passports in order to keep these options open. Not everyone wants to stay in the UK if it means going through a mountain of red-tape in order to sit in a dead-end job or hang around on the done (despite what UKIP would have you believe). Unfortunately, many may not have the option of moving due to family commitments.

I have clients who are moving back. They are more concerned with how living outside the Uk (Europe) will affect them.

We are Irish, living in England and while Brexit is a pain, we can easily be naturalised if we so wish. We have lived here for 8 years, have reasonably substantial assets here in property, and although I'm a freelancer with insecure (albeit respectable) pay, DH will be working in a "real" job from September, so I can't see us failing any requirements.

As I'm Irish, I'm a bit iffy about getting British citizenship, but if that's what we have to do to remain, I have no problem with it.

Brexit has brought out the worst in a lot of people, but the obnoxious xenophobes were obnoxious xenophobes before too, and better the devil you know, right?

Also, for all the legitimate complaints, England is awesome to live in. Lots of jobs, great healthcare, schools, culture, cities, countryside, transport, airports. There are great reasons for so many immigrants (like me!) to come here. It's wonderful. I'm fiercely patriotic about being Irish, but England is where I live, and where I love living. However, my life here is enhanced by the many different races and nationalities here, I feel. I like how many languages are spoken by the parents at my children's school, on the bus, in town.

When secondary school comes rolling around in 4 or 5 years, we'll consider our options again, but if I had good steady work going, and DH had a post in his field, there would be no reason to leave.

We are renting out our UK home and, after a trip to visit family elsewhere, going to Denmark. DH has gone freelance and I've been offered work. Minimum 6 months. Stressed and excited.

I joined the scientific brain drain

I'm a British citizen, born in England, but mixed race and I suffered a lot of racism in school and elsewhere, years ago. So, I've no emotional attachment to the UK.
No DC or other close family either.

I emigrated to Germany right after the referendum and I have a permanent job here.

It's great: cheaper housing, far more rights for tenants, excellent public services & infrastructure.
At work, the equipment is topnotch.

tbh, not a big change for me because I've already worked a lot on the continent, mostly Germany, exercising my rights under FOM.
Germany is always eager to invite more scientists and engineers, so I've always found it easy getting work (I'm a STEM PhD) in an international English-language environment. I'm reasonably fluent in German now though.

I asked and was officially informed that I have the right to remain in Germany until / unless Brexit deal changes things, so at least until March 2019, probably later.
After this date, our HR dept said no worries - they can easily make out a case that I have scientific expertise they need, so I can stay on.
Then, after 5 years legal residence, a citizen from any country can apply to stay permanently in Germany

However, I'd really love to apply for the proposed EU citizenship, if that goes through.
I wish to be European, no longer British.

If I had the money and the skills I'd be off like a shot!

I have dual citizenship. I currently hold a British passport (runs out in June), but will be re-applying for an Irish one. Tbf the only reason I got a British one in the first place, was because I needed it reasonably quickly as we'd booked our wedding abroad. Getting British was faster than getting Irish as i'd lost my citizenship cert and would have had to apply for that before getting a passport. All of my family are Irish, although I was born here, but i've been brought up to be very proud of my Irish heritage.

I am also cynically amused by the planned dash to Australia, a place with strict immigration controls. (and an environmentally unsustainable population)

Yep. I'm not understanding this either. Australia has notoriously strict immigration laws/requirements, is very difficult to get permanent residency in, even harder to get citizneship, hasn't got ample jobs, hasn't got anything resembling the EU with anyone else, is one of the most unaffordable places in the world to live, is falling behind in the health and education stakes, has had massive political instability since 2007 etc. Sounds like everything Remainers dread will happen to the UK.

Scrolling back through thread searching for mad dash to Australia but no sign of one

DH and I are planning to leave the UK in the next few years, once our DCs have finished university. He's not British, has never applied for citizenship but has lived here all his adult life. I have a British passport but am entitled to apply for a passport from another EU country through my parentage. If it wasn't for our DCs we'd be well on our way by now.

Excellent post MrsLupo. There has been a definite change of atmosphere since all this happened.

I'd be really interested in an explanation of the "Brexit is so appalling I'm moving to Australia" thinking.

Baggy Smalls..
You ask why would you leave your own country?
I have to answer I no longer recognise the place I live in as my country. It is certainly not the counrty I grew up in. And I am not convinced the change is for the better.

These Australia posts are rather odd

No they are not. They are in response to posts like this

Am considering it still. Australia or Canada - we both have jobs that would allow it. Just torn about taking our son away from family

I'm dual citizen (British and New Zealander), DH is English. We are looking at leaving London for a move to Australia in the next year or so, my job is on the CSOL list so I may get a more permanent visa otherwise we will have to rely on mine and the kids NZ passports, which is risky in itself as it will limit DH being able to work over there in the long term.

The reason for Australia is that I have a lot of friends over there, nicer lifestyle etc and I have previously worked there so still have contacts. I don't want to return to NZ for a variety of reasons.

However, we have made no firm decisions and may still stay in the UK, we are just going wait to see how everything pans out. We are ready to bail if things turn to shit but don't want to jump ship just yet.

Yup, up to a point. No, permanent residency is hard to get, but citizenship really easy. I know, I did it. They want their permanent residents to become citizens.

My Norwegian DH felt the pressures of getting citizenship even after living and working here for several years.

HAS it? Really? I would really need you to supply your sources.

My source is the fact that I was born here and have lived here my entire life.

It's talked about frequently how Australian education standards are dropping by the year and that the health system is struggling to cope with increased demand: poor infrastructure, underfunding and understaffing.

'S'pose you'd have to live here to know.