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Donald Trump, the first week is BAD. What next? Come all ye Beautifuls!

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Roussette · 25/01/2017 13:46

Here we are!

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BigBadgers · 26/01/2017 19:31

She can't do a trade deal with the USA or even enter formal talks until we have left the EU... thank heavens. This is just an ego stroking session.

ZebraOwl · 26/01/2017 19:41

amispartacus

I suspect that if Trump actually showed his hideous leering face the size of the protests would knock the London Women's March into the proverbial cocked hat. (And it would be the best hat, too.).

GingerIvy · 26/01/2017 19:47

They're trying to shut down protesting in the states, I suspect.

www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a52597/state-protest-laws/

amispartacus · 26/01/2017 19:51

So...Trump's daughter is registered in 2 states.

I would love to be the journalist who asked that question to Trump.

AlwaysTheWinner · 26/01/2017 19:52

But, but, mightn't the NHS thing be a dead cat? Did I use the term right?
So she can be seen to back down on that aspect of the deal and we will all say phew, and it will distract from the bad parts of the actual deal done.

amispartacus · 26/01/2017 19:56

But, but, mightn't the NHS thing be a dead cat? Did I use the term right

The dead cat is the 'opposites attract' statement. We are supposed to talk about that and ignore the other stuff. We need a big dead cat soon - but with Trump, there's a whole table of cats...

originalmavis · 26/01/2017 19:56

Sorry yes, billion not million! I do know this - I was watching a video about how something like that could be engineered and it's generally thought by people who know about such things that it would be bloody tricky and very very bigly expensive.

Million indeed. Just as well I'm not in banking anyone.

Alfieisnoisy · 26/01/2017 19:58

Claig is awfully quiet. Normally all over these threads parroting about brave new world politics or some such rubbish. Could it be that even he/she is now a tad concerned?

originalmavis · 26/01/2017 20:00

Wasn't a real person. A gob-bot most likely.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 26/01/2017 20:01

That David Muir interview transcript is Shock. Trump says he didn't win the popular vote because he wasn't trying to win the electoral college vote. Am I missing something her? Doesn't the popular vote inform/feed into the electoral college votes (i.e. one & the same)? Also, if there has been widespread voter fraud, it could equally mean that Trump shouldn't have won the electoral college vote - I don't know why he assumes fraudulent votes went to Hillary.

itsawonderfulworld · 26/01/2017 20:01

Roussette, this is the piece by Jimmy Carter. Both sad and pertinent.

He may not have set the world on fire but was certainly one of the most principled presidents the US have had. Lovely man.

Lweji · 26/01/2017 20:02

I'm just waiting for Stephen Colbert to be arrested.

This was from the other day. Watch it till the very end.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 26/01/2017 20:03

^ Wasn't trying to win the popular vote, he was trying to win the electoral college....

Lweji · 26/01/2017 20:03

Never mind Carter.

Even W. Bush seems good right now.

saffronwblue · 26/01/2017 20:04

I can't believe this is still just the first week. It's like living in a speeded up horror movie.

PausingFlatly · 26/01/2017 20:04

No no, the involvement in healthcare isn't just insurance.

It's US (and any other) companies being given contracts to run hospitals and clinics and any other services.

That's the whole point of the Health and Social Care Act 2012. Any willing provider. Private profit-makers welcome. "NHS" reduced to a brandname.

This was all made explicit in 2012. The legislation has been passed, and the privatisation is now being rolled out bit by bit.

GingerIvy · 26/01/2017 20:05

Yes, but that opens the door for insurance and copays, and then the NHS will never be free at POS again.

PausingFlatly · 26/01/2017 20:08

So May might be going to rouse Trump's feelings about how much fun he can have channelling UK taxpayers' healthcare spend into his friends' pockets (and his own if he likes, given he hasn't given up his businesses).

But this was going to happen anyway.

PausingFlatly · 26/01/2017 20:09

Oh yes, insurance will be part of the H&SC Act outcome - which is why the UK govt is already trialling "personal health budgets."

But the US dimension of the whole shebang is already a given.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2017 20:21

The state department senior officials didn't resign en masse - they were fired.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2017 20:22

link here

BigBadgers · 26/01/2017 20:25

Oh, yeah. Of course they were pain. I didn't stub my toe either, I just chose to hit it on the door frame because I wanted to...So there...

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/01/2017 20:26

The NHS Action Party has been warning for some time about the impact of US trade deals.

They need our support before it's too late