to still be cross about the outcome of the EU referendum?

[mynamesnotsam]

I'm still so angry and can't forgive those who voted to leave. After the result there was much talk of how the two sides must put aside their differences but I don't feel there has been any attempt to try to appease the 48.1% of people who voted to stay. I also want to rip the head off any one who says it's the will of the people. They should be legally obligated to say it's the will of 51.9 % of the people who voted. If the vote had gone the other way you can bet that UKIP would still be making a huge fuss about it but remainers are expected to "just get over it"!

It does seem to make a few people angry but try and imagine how hard it was for leavers who have had years of sucking up their anger watching the UK cede more and more power to the corrupt protectionist EU.

But this is how democracy works and the day after the vote the UK hasn't collapsed. The sooner everyone pulls together the more likely we are to make our country a globally successful power.

Most of my family voted leave, well, it was all of the older generation. The racist bile they have been spouting since is awful, I hate it.

Not everyone who voted Leave voted for racist reasons though, you realise that, right?
I couldn't sit and listen to racist views either so I get where you're coming from if they are spouting racist crap though.
People may have voted because they wanted to have more say as an independent country and not be dictated to by Europe over laws/rules etc.
Amongst other reasons.

Well said, LastGirl. I'm the same, as in I voted Remain but quite a few of my family voted Leave

Same here too.

What will your anger do? We can't change the result, it will be tightly controlled by parliament, but we will be leaving.

It doesn't matter whether you or I disagree with whether that is the best thing or not. It's happening.

I realise this is cliche but you are only hurting yourself/your blood pressure/ your own relationships.

I don't really understand this shift that has happened. Extreme views on either side seem more common.

Instead of accepting that others believe differently to us and that's ok, now it's more common to 'need' to 'make' the 'others' see the error of their ways.

day after the vote the UK hasn't collapsed

Because we haven't left the EU!

And in case anyone wonders: we're perfectly entitled to stay here, no matter what, just won't bother jumping through the hoops as, frankly, we don't need to.
20+ years of high tax rate contributions,
British kids, companies employing 50+ people. Taking them all with us, lol!

YANBU.
I really like my PILs but won't discuss this issue with them as I don't want to cause upset. They live in a town with well below average immigration yet think that free movement of people is the cause of all our woes.

Ultimately Cameron is responsible. The referendum should never have happened- it was inevitably going to cause a rift. I'm sad to say the remain campaign was poor and Jeremy Corbin is a disaster for the Pabour Party.

Yes fake, was just going to post something similar. Of course I can forgive my otherwise loving and supportive parents for voting Leave - it's one person, one vote and they're entitled to their opinion. What I struggle to forgive is them sitting in their £800,000 house and spouting racist vitriol in the run-up to and aftermath of the vote. Growing up I obviously knew they had xenophobic views, but not to this extent, and Brexit has given them the confidence to express them.

Also the abuse works both ways - I've been called a 'traitor' by other family members for daring to vote Remain. (Have probably progressed to being an 'enemy of the people' now! )

Not everyone who voted Leave voted for racist reasons

They/you can bleat that all you like but as an EU citizen here for 20+ years, raising British kids, employing Brits in my business: you voted for racism, plain and simple. It may be uncomfortable to hear but it's the truth. Own it and you'll look less pathetic.

(To clarify: obviously we won't be taking our employees with us. Our accumulated wealth, taxes and companies are going with us though).

I'm still angry and in denial about the whole thing happening. I still hope it won't. We should have never been given the option to vote for economic suicide

itsawonderfulworld you voted for racism, plain and simple this is the problem - remainers have believed the DM reasons - I am not a racist, I am not stupid, I am not a DM reader but I voted leave as that was in my opinion the best solution for the UK for the future

I have no evidence that they will change, but without changing them I fail to see how we will attract business to the UK once we leave the single market

Feel free to educate me if I get anything wrong (always open to learning or being told I'm wrong politely and explaining why )
As I understand it in the EU we could only trade within ourselves. Ie only within the European market.
By leaving, we'd surely be broadening our options and be able to trade freely with any country we wanted (obviously dependent on whether they wanted to trade with us) as opposed to only those we were told we could trade with?
How can that be construed as a bad thing?
Shackling trade to a select number of countries I'd have thought would be more detrimental.

They/you can bleat that all you like
I voted Remain so no idea where your random you came from then.

As I understand it in the EU we could only trade within ourselves. Ie only within the European market.

No! This is wrong. Of course we trade with other countries!

But being in the EU and part of the single market gave us the power to negotiate trade as one of the biggest markets in the world. It's called economies of scale - we will lose it now and be negotiating trade deals on the back foot and with little power or scale.

We will be going from Trading with power and clout to Trading Dell Boy style.

I'm still cross. My EU citizenship will be stripped and there is nothing that I'll be able to do about it.

Educate yourself! Honestly, you thought the EU meant we could only trade with other members of the EU?

Why wouldn't you arm yourself with basic facts before you cast your vote. And no, we don't have to be polite, just accept the consequences of your actions. A lot of people think you were wrong, to announce that you voted without understanding the facts just makes people angry.

For example, The EU is China's biggest source of imports! So we are part of the biggest market that China has - that gives us power to negotiate in our favour.

Educate yourself! Honestly, you thought the EU meant we could only trade with other members of the EU? Why wouldn't you arm yourself with basic facts before you cast your vote

I am educating myself! Why else would I be asking?! Haven't you armed yourself with the ability to read as I said I voted remain!

just accept the consequences of your actions

• glitterazi Tue 24-Jan-17 23:32:16

They/you can bleat that all you like
I voted Remain so no idea where your random you came from then.*

Just sayin'

I do think politeness is a better way of educating people to your way of thinking though.

Soo There was no status quo. QMV is coming in, enlargement will start again in the next couple of years, and the EU would carry on extending the competencies to bring more and more under its aegis. The Acquis would be ratcheted up.

The above are part of the reasons I voted to leave. I love Europe, I live very near Brussels as dh works here, but I loathe the EU.

Too fucking late isn't it? So no, thanks.

Unless, of course, you are dealing with the likes of those who believe that EU has issued a directive on roast potatoes. Those people are beyond education. Be as rude as you will

Say what you want, I don't believe you.

Post truth society and all that.

cricketballs no I believe the facts.
Leavers keep bleating on how their vote had "nothing to do with immigration" or even "we didn't mean you - you're the good kind of immigrant" which is even worse.
Us Remainers presented the actual facts of what would happen and it was dismissed as "project fear". Now that it's all coming true, I and countless others in my situation, who have made our lives here in good faith for 20 years, are asked to jump through unfeasible hoops to be "allowed" to stay and pay yet more taxes. I say f*ck that!
And yes, everyone who voted Leave voted for xenophobia, whether they understood it at the time or not. Own it, please, or you just look pathetic.