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to still be cross about the outcome of the EU referendum?

893 replies

mynamesnotsam · 24/01/2017 21:38

I'm still so angry and can't forgive those who voted to leave. After the result there was much talk of how the two sides must put aside their differences but I don't feel there has been any attempt to try to appease the 48.1% of people who voted to stay. I also want to rip the head off any one who says it's the will of the people. They should be legally obligated to say it's the will of 51.9 % of the people who voted. If the vote had gone the other way you can bet that UKIP would still be making a huge fuss about it but remainers are expected to "just get over it"!

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FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 24/01/2017 22:12

HSBC will only move in the event of a hard Brexit. If we leave the single market.

No way we will stay in the single market if A50 is triggered. So if we stay HSBC will stay.

MyschoolMyrules · 24/01/2017 22:13

The result of the referendum was not democratic as it has been proven that voters did not know that a referendum is a consultation and the result needs to be discussed and voted in parliament. Even the Prime Minister didn't know that and she needed the Supreme Court to tell her.

And there was nothing on that ballot paper about leaving the economic union. If you are not clear about this, you can always refer to the Conservative a manifesto which promised the opposite.

I am not angry, I am completely passive and fed up, fed up with the lies. I do not care anymore.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 24/01/2017 22:13

But no doubt especially in the instance of a hard Brexit, the City will fall like a house of cards.

Lizzylou · 24/01/2017 22:14

When we sought trade deals elsewhere (ie. India) they requested freedom of movement as part of the deal. Doubt that will please a lot of Faragesque brexiters.
David Cameron was an arrogant arse who didn't bother to fight.
I don't want to be shackled to the USA and beholden to them so where???
Manufacturing in this country has been screwed for years. We have been outdone in most sectors for a long time on the international stage.

user1481838270 · 24/01/2017 22:14

Money which could have gone to the NHS or schools is now going to be squandered on a heinously expensive vanity-divorce.

Yeah cos that was really going to happen.

BoneyBackJefferson, you really don't think that there won't be cutbacks to the NHS to finance this?

I suppose we could all live in cloud-cuckoo land?

wowfudge · 24/01/2017 22:15

Eh? In order to leave Art.50 needs to be triggered. The single market issue is not the same. The government have said we won't stay in the single market.

Binkybix · 24/01/2017 22:16

If the Brexit decision gets overruled, does that set a precedent I.e. Come the GE and the wrong party wins, can those who didn't vote or get what they voted for, challenge the decision and get the GE result overturned?

No because one was an advisory referendum. Leave won, I accept that. But the fact that Theresa fucking May keeps saying that her interpretation of Brexit is the will if the people is what is ruling me up. No, actually, the people voted on one simple question. You cannot infer the will of the people from that. It's a barefaced lie.

tabulahrasa · 24/01/2017 22:16

"I did not vote on misinformation, I voted because I want my children and future grandchildren to have a chance at a better life"

So you had access to actual information then? Because not even the people campaigning for leave knew what the vote was actually for...

But you had information on whether it was going to be a hard or soft brexit before the referendum?

mynamesnotsam · 24/01/2017 22:16

I'm not saying we should disregard the outcome. However, it's not like a general election where we get to do it all again in 5 years. This was a one off vote for a drastic change that a lot of people didn't want.

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FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 24/01/2017 22:19

We can't stay in the single market if Art50 is triggered. That has been made very clear.

However, We may not actually leave the EU, you do realise that?

This may still die a slow and expensive death.

fakenamefornow · 24/01/2017 22:20

Those who are upset, please come on the march.

www.uniteforeurope.org/

But no doubt especially in the instance of a hard Brexit, the City will fall like a house of cards.

In fairness to TM hard Brexit is the only option, all this talk of us having a soft Brexit ignores the fact that we'll get the deal the EU want to give us, we'll just be laughed out of the door if we start telling them 'we want this, we want that'. This was obvious during the whole campaign before the vote.

lovelyupnorth · 24/01/2017 22:20

Luckily we can fuck off. Still can't believe some of the stupid people in this county are but hey look how fucked the US is.

Well at least there'll be 350 Millon for the NHS. Interesting that in the last few days Farage said that if it was close he'd be shouting it's not fair and let's have a second referendum.

But really Cameron is to blame that most of our pig ignorant country could look at the arguments rationally. The eu has it faults but better to fix from the inside than be fucked over from the outside.

Not sure what planet May, Davis and Johnson are on but we will be royally fucked over to protect the EU.

But then again we can trade more with the us oh have you seen what trump is planning.

Frazzled2207 · 24/01/2017 22:20

Agree with Laurie that this mess is entirely David
Cameron's doing. And he swans off into the sunset leaving TM to sort it out. He played a massive gamble and it backfired spectacularly.

Whatever the result, pretty sure TM does not have a mandate to leave the common market.

I'm still seething. Mostly worried about how it will affect my children.
Angry

MadameMaxGoesler · 24/01/2017 22:21

FuckoffDailyMail
in the instance of a hard Brexit, the City will fall like a house of cards.
Hahahahaha

lovelyupnorth · 24/01/2017 22:22

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trinketsofgold · 24/01/2017 22:22

No I'm definitely not your mother.

I live in a town where overdevelopment is high, not enough school places. Not enough doctor surgery, too much traffic.

I've been priced out of the housing market and will probably never own my own home.

But I can afford to pay in excess of £1000 a month for someone else's mortgage. Go figure.

The field my husband works in has become saturated with people willing to work for a pittance, pricing us out.

When life's really shit. You haven't got much to lose. Change can see an exciting prospect. Even if I don't personally get to see the benefit from it I hope my children do.

Pettywoman · 24/01/2017 22:23

And the referendum was bollocks. Cameron arrogantly only gave a few weeks to campaign and thought he'd win. Leave lied their arses off. Cameron couldn't campaign properly because to do so would be to admit that the hardships being faced by people were not because of the EU but because of his austerity policy. Corbyn either was totally inept or may as well have been because no media ever covered anything he ever said unless it was about saying 'ram packed' on a train and Laura Kuenssberg hates him.

SalemsCat · 24/01/2017 22:24

Yanbu

Haffiana · 24/01/2017 22:26

Don't get mad, get even. The Tories will not win another election for decades.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 24/01/2017 22:28

I understand people being angry about the result (I voted remain) but the insults being thrown around at the people who voted to leave are disgusting.

If more young people voted it would have gone the other way - well they didn't bother so here we are.

Argue the politics of it but by insulting people, it just makes the argument look weak.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 24/01/2017 22:29

Still Corbyn is insisting on a leave vote so that is going to cause a lot of conflict I imagine

trinketsofgold · 24/01/2017 22:30

Don't get mad, get even. The Tories will not win another election for decades

Not with that plank corbyn in opposition they wont

birdybirdywoofwoof · 24/01/2017 22:30

I disagree, Haffiana. The Labour party are finished.

BarbarianMum · 24/01/2017 22:30

As the child of immigrants I never felt wholly at home in the UK despite being born here (the xenophobia I encountered had a lot to do with this). Brexit has been a really clear sign that me and mine will never be really welcome here. It makes me somewhat bitter but in other ways is hugely liberating - I no longer feel obliged to pull together for the common good or worry about what happens to the country next. I've claimed dual nationality for myself, am in the process of doing so for our kids and will stay here as long as it is economically beneficial to us and leave if this ceases to be the case. My parents are properly gutted though. They built their lives here and look on the UK as home. Sad

backwardpossom · 24/01/2017 22:30

That "this is bullshit:- brexit" thread is proof that decisions shouldn't be allowed to be made by the public. So. Much. Stupid.

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