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to still be cross about the outcome of the EU referendum?

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mynamesnotsam · 24/01/2017 21:38

I'm still so angry and can't forgive those who voted to leave. After the result there was much talk of how the two sides must put aside their differences but I don't feel there has been any attempt to try to appease the 48.1% of people who voted to stay. I also want to rip the head off any one who says it's the will of the people. They should be legally obligated to say it's the will of 51.9 % of the people who voted. If the vote had gone the other way you can bet that UKIP would still be making a huge fuss about it but remainers are expected to "just get over it"!

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Yabbadabbo2 · 26/01/2017 19:12

We are a powerhouse of world finance not eu finance. Mainly because of the stable governance, law and skills and proffesional services on offer.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 26/01/2017 19:19

We are a powerhouse of world finance not eu finance. Mainly because of the stable governance, law and skills and proffesional services on offer.

I said: We have built ourselves as the Financial Centre of Europe! We are the power house in the financial world because of EU membership.

LaurieMarlow · 26/01/2017 19:20

No Yabba, that's not accurate.

We're a powerhouse of world finance because of our membership of the EU.

Passporting means that companies authorised in one EU state can sell their products and services across the whole block.

London has been the obvious base for non-EU companies who want to sell within the EU (because of membership, speaking English). But they'll all go, because we don't offer this advantage anymore. And the talent will go with them.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 26/01/2017 19:21

From upthread: here's what a leaver thinks about the city and our position as Global leader:

24/01/2017 22:21 MadameMaxGoesler

FuckoffDailyMail
in the instance of a hard Brexit, the City will fall like a house of cards.

Hahahahaha

FrancesNiadova · 26/01/2017 20:55

HSBC, Car manufacturers, Smiffys, are all moving away from Brexit Britain and into Europe. But yeah, immigrants, Frogs, Krauts, vote out, YEAH, take control of what exactly Poles, more immigrants, yeah, Brexit.
C'mon, we're a small island race, with an insular island race mentality. I'd really hoped that we were more liberal and educated, but it turns out that we're not. Still, Brexit, no forrin folk, take back control, yeah! vomit

FrancesNiadova · 26/01/2017 20:58

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pipsqueak25 · 27/01/2017 01:54

frances stay off the booze and have a Brew instead because you aren't making much sense tbh.

EveOnline2016 · 27/01/2017 02:24

My husband works for a car manufacturing company and he has seen his work load increase since Brexit and the company taking on 5 year contracts.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 05:41

Do you know why that has happened eve? And how did Brexit drive that? Would be very interested to know.

BoneyBackJefferson · 27/01/2017 07:02

TheElementsSong

Still sniping and sneering at people with different opinions. It really backs your discussion point up.

Draylon · 27/01/2017 07:50

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TheElementsSong · 27/01/2017 07:56

Good grief Boney, you are totally covering yourself in glory, when everybody else has moved on in the condensation Shock

Please can somebody show me where I am sniping and sneering?

LaurieMarlow · 27/01/2017 08:29

Another reason I'm angry is the impact Brexit will have on Northern Ireland. Peace is so very precarious there and hugely dependent on good relations with the Republic and sensitive handling of the border. A return to conflict feels inevitable, setting the Provence back 30 years.

Yet, this didn't seem to flit through the mind of David Cameron or enter the heads of Boris and Michael Gove as they played their power games. I haven't seen any evidence that the Englush leave voters gave it a moment's thought as they 'took back control' Hmm

It's not surprising, but it does sadden me that no-one gives a flying fuck.

TheElementsSong · 27/01/2017 08:42

I'm going to put my hands up, Laurie, and confess that in the run-up to the referendum, I only thought about the effect on NI and the GFA when it was pointed out by better posters on here and other talk boards. Then I felt awful for being so ignorant about it, for blithely assuming it was, well, all sorted previously.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 08:49

"Frankfurt itself talks of between 8,000 and 20,000 jobs moving here from London, incrementally. Real estate agents are said to be feverishly fielding property enquiries from companies, with the main question being not so much an interest in prices – which are considerably lower than in London or Paris – but the availability of luxury housing."

These are the people generating vast amounts of revenue for this Country. These are the people that have positioned this country as the global power house in finance. These are the people paying disproportionately big chunks of taxes.

But nothing's happening.

Nothing's happening.

What exactly will take the place of this revenue steam? What exactly will the U.K. have to offer instead? The other EU members already don't like the power that the UK wields through the city. They won't let us leave he EU and maintain the power that we have , to think they will is insane. They are scrambling to take what we built.

LaurieMarlow · 27/01/2017 09:00

TheElements, in a way it's hardly fair to expect those unfamiliar with NI to understand the impact.

But it just saddened me that it didn't feature in the debates, wasn't a consideration point for anyone. The official remain faction are most culpable when it comes to that, I suppose.

I grew up there, in what was effectively a warzone. They've come so far as a society and now all that progress is threatened.

fakenamefornow · 27/01/2017 09:02

Another reason I'm angry is the impact Brexit will have on Northern Ireland.

I thought about it, and Scotland and Gibraltar. I think the economy is the least of our worries. I voted Remain though. I think plenty of people knew about these issues and either didn't give a shit or didn't believe people pointing out this could be a problem. In fact I remember Leave campaigners even getting angry when these issues were mentioned and saying it was just lies and scare mongering.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 09:03

Laurie can you explain why? I confess ignorance as to how Bexit would destabilise NI.

user1481838270 · 27/01/2017 09:36

My husband works for a car manufacturing company and he has seen his work load increase since Brexit and the company taking on 5 year contracts.

Car manufacturing isn't something that can be moved overnight. It will be at least 2020 before production plants in Slovakia have scaled up production.

In the meantine, car production here will be working full out for the next year or so in preparation for this move. Companies are building up inventory and moving these across borders while there are still no tariffs.

Large-scale job losses in car manufacturing in the UK won’t occur before 2020 if we do leave the single market.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 09:40

Thanks for that information user1481838270

user1481838270 · 27/01/2017 09:43

Correction:

Large-scale job losses in car manufacturing in the UK won’t occur before mid 2019 - it will be two years after triggering of Brexit - if we do leave the single market.

Until then, production will be booming in preparation for the move.

OliviaStabler · 27/01/2017 09:51

I'm still so angry and can't forgive those who voted to leave.

I can't forgive those people who voted for Tony Blair but democracy means that the majority vote wins. You have to live with it.

I wonder why more people are not angry at those that didn't bother voting.

FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 09:53

We don't have to live with it. That's what democracy means.

Motheroffourdragons · 27/01/2017 09:55

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FuckOffDailyMailQuitQuotingMN · 27/01/2017 09:59

Too many people simply did not believe there was a danger of leaving the EU, and did not feel it necessary to vote. Too many people did not want to be bothered with a referendum that they did not want in the first place. Too many people were untroubled by the status quo – that is, were content to remain in the EU – and did not want to bother listening to referendum arguments or having to go out of their way to a polling station. The referendum seemed an irrelevance to them.

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