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to still be cross about the outcome of the EU referendum?

893 replies

mynamesnotsam · 24/01/2017 21:38

I'm still so angry and can't forgive those who voted to leave. After the result there was much talk of how the two sides must put aside their differences but I don't feel there has been any attempt to try to appease the 48.1% of people who voted to stay. I also want to rip the head off any one who says it's the will of the people. They should be legally obligated to say it's the will of 51.9 % of the people who voted. If the vote had gone the other way you can bet that UKIP would still be making a huge fuss about it but remainers are expected to "just get over it"!

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fakenamefornow · 25/01/2017 20:31

So you know me and know I am a racist?

Did I say you were?

fakenamefornow · 25/01/2017 20:33

fake It's not racist to want stricter controls over immigration and proper vetting of immigrants... But carry on.

I agree. Is is racist to spout bile about people being like animals though.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 25/01/2017 20:34

Wow you know 8 whole racists - that's conclusive evidence right there.

Oh and the person who mentioned Farage - you do know that he didn't have any power in the first place?

Pluto30 · 25/01/2017 20:34

I agree. Is is racist to spout bile about people being like animals though.

Not technically, considering humans are animals.

Grin
extrabiotin · 25/01/2017 20:35

Olympia,

I was being a bit tongue in cheek. The rich will always be rich, the poor will always be poor, AND there will always be a squeezed middle that will pay for everything, as always. The middle ground has the least power. Remember that. It was always thus.

Anyway, I have no doubt that the UK has the means and the Civil Service mandarins to look after food, health and safety and all the rest of it, but there will no longer be any onus on them to do it anymore post Brexit. Will there?

fakenamefornow · 25/01/2017 20:42

Wow you know 8 whole racists - that's conclusive evidence right there

And they all voted Leave.

Not technically, considering humans are animals.

Yes, you're right, not racist at all, if fact it's hilarious when you think about it.

Olympiathequeen · 25/01/2017 20:50

Extra. Are you aware that some of our home grown health and safety rules are superior to those in the EU directives? Lorries carrying hazardous contents have far superior warning signs than EU directives.

And how does it sit that the Scottish parliament voted to put a tax on alcohol minimal pricing because of the huge problem with alcohol but were overruled by the EU because it was not fair to eu producers. Scotland had to abandon a sensible ruling.

Did an EU directive put 5p on plastic carrier bags?

We managed a good few things before the eu, or do you think we will be stuffing little boys up chimneys without the EU telling us not to?

Olympiathequeen · 25/01/2017 20:53

One of my favourite sayings is 'but it's our own money!' when we hear about how the EU gives us regional financial support and farming subsidies.

They give us nothing. We are net contributors. We could spend that money better ourselves or at least have the option to vote as to what is done with it. Currently the unelected EU tells us what's good for us.

Pluto30 · 25/01/2017 20:55

Do those remainers who still feel bitter about the result forget that the EU has only existed for 23 years, and that the UK was fine (arguably better) before its formation?

extrabiotin · 25/01/2017 20:56

Ah come on Olympia.

The Scottish Minimum alcohol pricing CAN go ahead, the EU left it up to the Scottish courts to decide and they did it. Imagine that!

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/21/scottish-court-rejects-appeal-against-minimum-alcohol-pricing

The world is a different place now. Big bizness rules the roost. They hate the EU for all its rules and regs. All the more reason we should like the protection it gives us.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 25/01/2017 20:59

5 or 6 racists out of a control group of 8 is clear evidence that all the other millions are identical Hmm

TheOtherSock · 25/01/2017 20:59

You want me to get over something that hasn't finished happening yet and of which I have no idea what the outcome will be? Confused

LaurieMarlow · 25/01/2017 20:59

Pluto, firstly the EU has existed in some form for much longer than that and secondly, the world is an utterly different place now.

The UK can't expect to just pick up where it left off. Which is a major mistake many brexiters have made.

TheOtherSock · 25/01/2017 21:00

(I couldn't work out how to make that makes any grammatical sense.)

celeste84 · 25/01/2017 21:00

I find it ironic some liberals continually tar anyone who oposes their pov with lazy tags such as racist. Its not very liberal.

Olympiathequeen · 25/01/2017 21:03

Extra. Thanks for the update. I'm sure all the delay and court costs were worth it why interfere anyway? Hmm

One persons protection is another persons stifling of individualism Grin

If we had voted to remain I would have accepted it and looked on the positives. Just with the Remainers would look at the positives and go with it. We will still need and want lots of eu migrant workers to maintain our economy but maybe the net contribution will go to build infrastructure to support us all instead of paying for the annual uprooting g of the EU from Brussels to Strasbourg. Could have been worse as originally it was meant to swap countries every year!

extrabiotin · 25/01/2017 21:03

Would some kind person define a Liberal for me thanks.

Pluto30 · 25/01/2017 21:03

firstly the EU has existed in some form for much longer than that and secondly, the world is an utterly different place now.

Economic unions have existed for hundreds of years and will continue to exist with or without the EU. Funnily enough, the rest of the world seems to be doing just fine with economic alliances etc. independent of the EU.

Look at how unpopular the TPP is. Some of the brightest minds in the world are vehemently against it and have said that the rapid globalisation of the last 50+ years has done nothing but cause divisiveness and increased the gap between right and poor. The EU is no different.

No one is saying that the UK has to go back to what it was before, but it's ludicrous to suggest that there'll be no benefits to the UK by leaving when there are many (more economically stable) countries who are not in the EU. The UK will adjust.

Pluto30 · 25/01/2017 21:05

*Rich and poor.

extrabiotin · 25/01/2017 21:07

@Olympia,

The difference is, those who wanted cheap booze could get it, in the months/years hiatus between the Scottish saying it and the EU pushing it back to them.

I think that's a result for Scots drinkers!

Olympiathequeen · 25/01/2017 21:10

Extra

Cheers Wine

extrabiotin · 25/01/2017 21:13

Olympia

Cheers!

jellyfrizz · 25/01/2017 21:17

I find it ironic some liberals continually tar anyone who oposes their pov with lazy tags such as racist. Its not very liberal.

Are you suggesting all remainers are liberal?

And this Would some kind person define a Liberal for me thanks. Is it a bit like a lefty hippie? Not the definition of it I learnt but seems to be the way it's used these days.

TalkinPeace · 25/01/2017 21:25

If Farridge had lost, would he have abolished UKIP and accepted the result as final ???

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 25/01/2017 21:28

Does it matter?Farage didn't have any power in the first pkace