This is bullshit :- brexit

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I can see the MP voting to stay in.

I's delighted some proper checks and balances are finally being applied to the Brexit juggernaut, and reassured that parliamentary sovereignty is being upheld - as should all those Leavers who voted on the grounds of 'taking back control' of our laws. Only hope Gina Miller and the judges stay safe - there are some scary people out there.

Brexiteers went on and on about British law, British justice, British soverignity. Well, that is what you are getting! Why are you whining about it now?

I think it is a good thing.

I imagine Parliament will vote to trigger article 50, they should really.

But it has to be down properly and legitimacy, and it is important to this whole process through the correct democratic channels.

And I say this as a Remainer. Brexit, by all means, but do it according to procedure.

It is also very useful as it will force Labour to finally take a stand and decide what their option on this is! We need proper opposition please.

Well, the Leavers wanted our parliament to wrestle back 'the say' in any situation, right?

I hope Leavers are celebrating. Surely this is precisely what they wanted?

I think Gina Miller should be provided with security. She managed to hold the government accountable on this and is fully backed by our courts now BUT very exposed to the rogues out there.
State must provide her security as she is an invaluable national asset now.

I understand why it has to go to parliament - but I can see it being watered down to give us the worst possible outcome in my opinion.
A Brexit where we end up with so many compromises that there is nothing positive about exiting (and there could be).
We need to be able to negotiate - go in hard, knowing that we can still 'give' to get the best possible deal...
A bit like a market trader asking for £20 but really wanting £10...the customer barters them 'down' to £10 and they are both happy...trader got what he wanted and the customer feels like they got a deal. Except I think if some remoaner MPS get their way we will be going in saying £10 and so end up with £5 ...
And also they will know what we are prepared to offer before the negotiation starts -which will give them an advantage...
(Can't believe I'm agreeing with him -but as Juncker said - ' I'm ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic, but I want to be serious ... I am for secret, dark debates')

Piglet. Agreed. I'll vote for a monkey if necessary. I mailed my mp as soon as the result came through and got an eff off will of the people mail. As one of his constituents, I'm expressing the will of certain people.

Voted Remain but it angers me a group of rich people , who will not be identified, has trampled all over this

Which unidentified rich people are you referring to?

I see some of you are beside yourself with happiness and glee though. Some of you deserve the handle Remoaners

What, for being glad that our parliamentary sovereignty has been upheld? Fuck away off.

Anyone commenting on who might win in stoke - have you ever been to/lived in stoke, just out of interest? I used to let flats there (£35 a week anyone?) and it's a sad area. I wouldn't judge people for voting for what they think is better and might bring change.

I would judge ukip for playing on that and lying to them and telling them racist fairy tales about a great British future, of course!

I really do hope that Ukip do not win, but Paul Nuttall MP seems highly likely given the leave vote up there last year.

(Not my flats, by the way, I just worked for an agency for a while as a student!!)

unlucky
Unfortunately, everyone knows what Britain needs in terms of trade deals etc. It's just the public who don't know and May is playing it. She hasn't got any secret weapons up her sleeves that would benefit people of this country I assure you.

It's good that Parliament will be respected.

Shame on some of our media for their reports on the judges and people who brought the case.

Stoke is interesting and I honestly have no idea who will win. I'd love to hear from people 'on the ground' there about what they feel might happen.

• Labour were way ahead at the last election and increased their share of the vote. There's clear air of 5,000 votes between them and UKIP.
• It's been a Labour seat for many, many decades and those family allegiances often run deep.
• Brexit voting doesn't necessarily 'translate' directly to party political voting. Lots of people will be Leave/Labour.
• In national terms, May has colonized the UKIP position in the national press, leaving them very little room to breathe. However, Tories are allegedly not running in Stoke to try to get UKIP in and inflict damage on Corbyn
• Labour are undoubtedly in deep trouble when it comes to the way they are being portrayed in the national press
• Plus Nuttall is not your average UKIP candidate. Even if he doesn't know the difference between -phone and -phile.

The tories do not need to call a snap election unless the opposition have a new credible leader soon they are on track to win in 2020 they really have nothing to worry about with the pathetic opposition that we have at the moment

UKIP (Paul Nuttell) will win Stoke and whoever is standing for the Conservative party will win Copeland

I rather not have another UKIP MP in parliament but it if leads to Corbyn stepping down and this nonsense of momentum controlling the labour party then its an unfortunate price worth paying

Folks be clear about this, Brexit means no negotiation, EU decides what Britain will get, it's not like they are getting £350m every week from the UK.

The pro leave campaign seems to forget that a large part of the leave campaign was predicated on lies such as above, this should not have been allowed to happen.

While talking of democracy NI and Scotland voted to remain, what about their rights? Ironic that this vote for U.K. Sovereignty may be the thing that breaks up the union.

In NI there has been talk by May of their not being a hard border, again she can only say what Britain will do Post Brexit.

Parliament voting on this is a good thing, a lot of voters have been misinformed as regards what may happen following uk leaving, for instance all airfares to from U.K. Are set to rise massively due to increases in fuel costs, increased border costs, and the use of European Air space for almost all flights.

Don't forget Europe could also tax goods going through Europe to the U.K. Again a massive thing not talked about.

In my view a vote by parliament is a good thing, follows the rule of law, and gives an opinion on what is likely to happen, rather than the UKIP promoted lies.

Ruby, sorry but there isn't a proper opposition, rumour has it Corbyn will vote for the government and tell his MP's to do the same. Such a hypocrite as he has voted against his party on numerous occasions in the past.
if labour lose Stoke, he may well go then, but he may not take the easy route! Who would take over if he did is anyones guess and I don't envy them either to be honest.
politics, its hurts my head just thinking about it without all these brexit problems in the mix!

it angers me a group of rich people , who will not be identified, has trampled all over this

Which rich people? Do you mean as opposed to poor Leavers like Boris Johnson and Arron Banks?

Ah yes, Paul Nuttalls MEP of the UKIPs - well, if he does get elected as an MP then it will be fifth time lucky. Will he be sharing his long held view on privatising the NHS?

Actually, there is a forthcoming EU regulation on the reduction of acrylamide in food (Itisnoteasybeingdifferent linked to it here.)

The UK's FSA states:

In the EU, Acrylamide is categorised as carcinogenic. While it is impossible to make any definitive conclusions about cancer risk given the uncertainties in exposure, the Food Standards Agency (FSA) recommends that such chemicals be as low as reasonably practicable.

Stoke is interesting and I honestly have no idea who will win. I'd love to hear from people 'on the ground' there about what they feel might happen.

Not from Stoke, but the Midlands, however UKIP will win Stoke.

Labour just aren't credible at the moment. Even my constituency which has always been Labour, apparently could very well go Tory!

It is all a big mess.

No one has "trampled"anything: ministers took decisions to do things that went beyond their legal powers, which was challenged by wealthy citizens (since the opposition parties declined to do so) and judges have confirmed that Parliament must be involved, upholding democracy.

Brexiteers went on and on about British law, British justice, British soverignity. Well, that is what you are getting! Why are you whining about it now?

It's not the (perfectly correct) principle of parliamentary involvement some of us are worried about; it's whether the members can be trusted to reflect the will of their constituents, rather than opting for what best suits them and their party

I'm old enough to remember the early '70s, when we were assured that the Common Market would only ever be just that - a marketing agreement - rather than the unaccountable behemoth it's become

Granted things move on, but we've never voted for most of that, either; it's just been what MPs have claimed is best for us

I think this is the start of the downfall of democracy. (and I voted Remain)

Well then I'm afraid you don't have a very good grasp of the facts. Or any grasp of the facts.

the Tories have a majority. Only Ken Clarke has said he would vote against triggering Art 50. Some Labour MPS will also vote for triggering. This decision will maybe lead to some concessions, thats all. The only potential glitch is The Lords but they are unlikely to rock the boat. They don't want to disrupt as this will cause a GE, where their position could be put in jeopardy.

Some Labour MPS will also vote for triggering.

I actually think most will tbh.