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This is bullshit :- brexit

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EveOnline2016 · 24/01/2017 10:04

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-supreme-court-ruling-judges-defy-theresa-may-and-hand-power-to-parliament-a7542406.html

I can see the MP voting to stay in.

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tiggytape · 24/01/2017 17:52

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Elendon · 24/01/2017 17:55

May will be out by the end of the year, and Corbyn will follow. I can cast iron guarantee it. The Conservatives will not all vote to trigger Article 50, simply because it wont bring the government down, but the Welsh vote and the DUP vote will see it through, as well as a number of Labour.

May has said that those from India and Pakistan will be treated exactly the same as those from the EU post Brexit.

Elendon · 24/01/2017 17:56

Meant to add, because there will be no special treatment given to those who are in the Commonwealth.

Peregrina · 24/01/2017 18:03

May sacked a few, but put some incompetents in place -Leasom and Johnson being two names which spring to mind immediately. There was an important report about Climate Change published the other day - part of DEFRA's remit. Not a peep about it on the website.

Elendon · 24/01/2017 18:06

Oh and Jeremy Hunt has made an important announcement today regarding the health service.

Peregrina · 24/01/2017 18:07

May will be out by the end of the year, and Corbyn will follow. I can cast iron guarantee it.

I wish. I'd like to see a clear out of a few more.

CockacidalManiac · 24/01/2017 18:08

May will be out by the end of the year, and Corbyn will follow

I'd rather Compo fucked off now. He's worse than useless.

Yabbadabbo2 · 24/01/2017 18:12

We are leaving and the sooner generation snowflake realise this the better. Complete waste of time and money in the supreme court and is not, as some have mentioned one person deciding to leave, but the majority of the electorate who voted.

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/01/2017 18:13

I have no problem with this.

SooWrites

It takes away May's (you know May, the unelected PM)

You do understand that we have never elected a PM?
We vote for a political party.

CockacidalManiac · 24/01/2017 18:14

generation snowflake

Rather easy to discount the opinion of someone who uses such a cunty phrase.

ghostyslovesheets · 24/01/2017 18:15

yes that's a point that comes up again and again - we vote for political parties in the UK not individual possible PM's

Her party was elected god dam it so that's who is in power - she is their leader

Yabbadabbo2 · 24/01/2017 18:19

As opposed to a cockacidalmaniac
Unfortunately these crying over brexit are the people where everyone gets a medal for competing they fail to comprehend the "majority" and is pretty disturbing to view.

needsahalo · 24/01/2017 18:19

Erm...because they were in the majority. That's how democracy works isn't it? You have a vote and the majority wins? Or should it be changed to we have a vote and the minority wins?

Not much of a majority. Does that mean the 48% of us who don't want this should just be ignored? Should our concerns not be taken into account? Should we not have a place in negotiations? 48% is a lot of voters to piss off. If we are to accept the situation then the process needs to be transparent and our concerns need to be addressed. It's not rocket science.

SooWrites · 24/01/2017 18:21

I understand that, however, the Conservatives won under Cameron, there is nothing to say they would have won under May, whose manifesto would have been different to Cameron's. Of course, they probably would have, but that's not a certainty. Which, in my opinion, however biased that may be as a leftie, makes her unelected.

We not me voted in the conservatives under Cameron's leadership.

I do understand that May is the leader of the conservatives and we as country, sadly and inexplicably, voted them in again and not May or Cameron.

CockacidalManiac · 24/01/2017 18:22

Unfortunately these crying over brexit are the people where everyone gets a medal for competing they fail to comprehend the "majority" and is pretty disturbing to view.

What the hell does this mean? 'Everyone gets a medal for competing'? Have you been on the turps?

SenseiWoo · 24/01/2017 18:23

How do you accommodate the concerns of the voters on the losing side when you have no idea what they want because the referendum didn't ask any procedural or hypothetical questions? We don't even know the Brexit preferences of the voters on the winning side. Parliament will now have to cobble something together.

Elendon · 24/01/2017 18:24

Can I ask you SooWrites what you mean about being a leftie? I consider myself left of centre, and there is no one I can safely vote for anymore, however, I will still vote.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 24/01/2017 18:27

Which, in my opinion, however biased that may be as a leftie, makes her unelected

She isn't unelected though whether you feel she is or isn't . The fact is that isn't the way parliament works in this country.

Manifestos are party Manifestos, not that of the leader of the party.

Btw no one voted for Brown either.

Elendon · 24/01/2017 18:29

Parliament will now have to cobble something together. That has to be the quote of this century SenseiWoo.

The government were going along quite nicely were they? They were not preceding on a wing and a prayer? Scrabbling together on the remit Brexit means Brexit?

Honestly the other EU countries must be looking at us and wondering what the actual?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/01/2017 18:29

Not much of a majority

It really doesn't matter - a majority is still a majority and I'll try to avoid mentioning that this is usually only said by those who have lost the vote

And no, of course the views of the 48% won't be ignored; since parliament contains MPs with a variety of views on the subject there's plenty of chance for all important issues to be discussed

But I still don't trust them to prioritise any others interests but their own Hmm

Topseyt · 24/01/2017 18:32

True that we don't actually elect a PM per se, but the leader of a political party does have a fair bit of influence on the policies that did or didn't make it electable.

That leader still has to get back into Parliament themselves though at a General Election. I can't personally remember a situation where the leader of the majority party was not returned to Parliament in the UK, or perhaps the last time that did happen (as it is perfectly possible).

It would be interesting if it did happen.

Elendon · 24/01/2017 18:34

But the Tories don't want May. They will use her for the time being, and once Article 50 is triggered, she's out. All hail Johnson, Gove but not Davis (bless him).

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