To think it's common sense to let a w/c user have the w/c spot

[SparkyStar84]

I've just seen the ruling on disabled people getting priority in disabled spots on buses. Isn't that common sense. What kind of person would deny a w/c user the space because 'pushchair'?
I'm a w/c user it makes it easier in a way to get about with children, though I know some w/c users still have a buggy.
This is about the parents who refuse to move, when asked, by someone who might have an appt or something important to get too. Not saying the parent doesn't. But isn't that the point of foldable buggies over great big travel systems?
It just bugs me that people have had to leave the bus because a parent wouldn't move. As a parent with kids of many ages, also remembering times gone by, the purpose of easy foldable buggies is that you can decamp when on the bus.
Do you think it's an issue that buses need to provide buggy spaces too?

Yes that's true and yes when my 4 were little there was no option to not use a bus and equally no option not to fold a buggy. Yes it was tricky but it's a nanosecond in your parenting life.

I just hope this ruling gives drivers enough power to compel to make way for wheelchairs and not to be given any option to refuse.

I want to see opinions expressed on here that buggies and wheelchair users are on a par with racist and sexist comments and mumsnet would delete them.

I can't believe that anyone would take up seat that is for wheelchair users once a wheelchair user gets on. If people aren't careful, it may end up where those spaces aren't to be used at all unless they are wheelchair users.

Make it the new Iamspartacus

Chuffyourarseyouentitledtwat

Actually the militant reference was user1471461436 upthread, who's post had thankfully been deleted.

I'm fucking militant, I have to be
Threads like this demonstrate why!

When did requesting for your rights in law to be met become fucking militant?

Yes Dawn but you know me I'm a bit... abrupt

Yeah. I can be an arsy cow on occasion, Bishop!

Ooh I should start one about disabled folk parking in parent & child parking bays.

"I really needed a wee so I parked in a disabled bay and used the accessible toilet so I didn't have to wait. Some entitled wc user shouted at me. Was ibu?"

Dawn

I've decided rather than getting bogged down by the fact that there are still so many twats uneducated, entitled, self centred people around.
I'm going to be glad that this has raised awareness of an issue lots of people weren't fully aware of. Lots of (car driving) people I've discussed this with have been genuinely gobsmacked that this happens so frequently on buses. People tend to exist in a bubble whenever possible don't they.
I am praying that anyone travelling who may have felt this to be acceptable would now feel shamed into doing the right thing after the coverage.

Drat, I responded to user's post without spotting that. Just goes to show how insidious it is.

It annoys me that the anonymity of the ppl on that bus were protected.

If they are so sure they are in the right they should be willing to stand by it and own it surely.

I meant if the seats were removed for more pram bay's, this would piss people off who have paid their bus fare and don't have a pram. If i shouldn't expect a seat for £2.80 people shouldn't expect to use the wheelchair space for a pram, they should just expect to use the pram bays provided, the wheelchair space is for wheelchair users. If there are less seat's to make way for pram bays on the off chance 3 prams want to use the same bus sometimes it will annoy people. If they have a seat on the bus but have to stand because a 4th or 5th pram gets on half way through the journey and they have to vacate their seat as the person with the pram refuses to fold it it will just cause more problems shuffling people round the bus, what if the person in the foldable seat over the pram bay refuses to move as they have paid their bus fare.

Pram mafia, a question:
I'm on the bus with a massive suitcase and I need to get to the airport
And pramnazi wants to get on
Who gets priority?

Because I know what happens in reality but I'd be interested to know your theory and working...

The pram side is large enough for you both to fit. Peace and love and happy holidays

spare under the assumption that the pram user and suitcase user for want of far better descriptions are able bodied then I believe its driver discretion.

hashi
But the pramnazis have been studiously arguing that it's first come, first serve when it's them vs a wheelchair
And that their shopping trip or doc appointment can't possibly wait
So surely that gives me priority?

Except when I've seen it happen in real life (which is really often,because my bus route finishes at Victoria station where loads of people are either getting a coach or train to Gatwick) everyone makes room for a pram

Despite being clearly about to catch a coach or plane and having something that doesn't fold down or take up less room

Ah, you see my failure is that I'm thinking legally and I'm not an arsehole.

I have seen instances where a buggy has been told to fold due to the bus already being full of suitcases/other stuff though. In general most people are nice enough to make way. Most arguments are old lady trolleys i have one when I have no buggy vs prams. They're normally encouraged to move.

Having said that I'm sure if a suitcasenazi took an argument against a pramnazi over a space on a bus a whole may rip in the fabric of time or would be highly amusing to watch assuming you aren't in a rush

What are these people teaching their children though? That's frightening.

its ok poppet you have a bubba so it completely entities you to take up a space for a wierd person with a disability because of course our bubba is a perfect snowflake and I am a yummy mummy and we are entitled to that space. People in wheelchairs are a race apart and thankfully we don't know people like
That

That's the fucking reality

SparkyStar84and you did.. why?? did this not get enough hatred going to suit you?
these threads appear on mn every couple of months.
imagine its YOUR CHILD HOWEVER OLD that you have to explain too why some selfish person will not fold, and they have to sit and wait for the next bus....oh yes to then have to explain it all again.
parents with babies in prams/buggies might feel oh so hard done by, but for them it so short lived they just move on. if you have a child in a wheelchair its FOR EVER . a forver of explaining why some selfish person won't let them use the wheelchair space for their Wheelchair.|

Because some parents are entitled, Frances.