To think it's common sense to let a w/c user have the w/c spot

[SparkyStar84]

I've just seen the ruling on disabled people getting priority in disabled spots on buses. Isn't that common sense. What kind of person would deny a w/c user the space because 'pushchair'?
I'm a w/c user it makes it easier in a way to get about with children, though I know some w/c users still have a buggy.
This is about the parents who refuse to move, when asked, by someone who might have an appt or something important to get too. Not saying the parent doesn't. But isn't that the point of foldable buggies over great big travel systems?
It just bugs me that people have had to leave the bus because a parent wouldn't move. As a parent with kids of many ages, also remembering times gone by, the purpose of easy foldable buggies is that you can decamp when on the bus.
Do you think it's an issue that buses need to provide buggy spaces too?

but I don't see why w/c users should always take priority tbh.

Because it's a wheelchair space. That wheelchair users campaigned long and hard for. Because before they had these spaces, wheelchair users couldn't get on the bus at all.

If you want your own priority space for your pram / buggy, campaign for one like they did. You won't though because in a couple of years you won't be using the buggy any more and you will stop caring about this issue. So for now, why not just enjoy the perk of being able to use these spaces when they are not required by a wheelchair user?

What's the matter with you? Like the w/c user, I paid for my ticket and if I need the space as much as he/she does and I was there first, he/she can wait for the next one. When my baby is bigger o will fold my buggy of course

In which case, don't use the wheelchair space, feel free to use the "I'm more important than anybody else because I had a baby" space.

Luckily Trifle the courts disagree with you. Stop making a fuss about something that is actally relatively straightforward (yes even with 2 children) and, until a few years ago, was totally common place.

And ^^this OP is the reason that it had to go to court at all.

AchingBack: That was lovely of you (and longsighted) but it is a bit OTT to expect people to shell out on special prams just so they can use public transport isn't it?

Bus should have big signs about buggies you can use like the do on airplanes with luggage, you can gladly take this sort on a bus. It must fold up but if you want all singing all dancing 4x4 by all means but you can't take it on the bus. the choice is then yours.

BarbarianMum: If that is the case I hope they change the sign soon

I'm not risking my baby's safety by carrying her in a bus until they do.

That was lovely of you (and longsighted) but it is a bit OTT to expect people to shell out on special prams just so they can use public transport isn't it?

But it's perfectly reasonable to expect a wheelchair user to wait around because you don't feel like doing the decent thing?

BarbarianMum: Can't agree with you, sorry. HTH though.

Trifleorbust I strongly advise you to educate yourself on disabilities and the difficulties people with disabilities face.

Not really Trifle, I see it more as common sense. You buy a pram/pushchair to meet your needs. Obviously if you don't drive and are aware you will need to use public transport it's common sense to buy a pushchair you can manage and collapse by yourself. Pretty much in the same way if you drive and use a car, you don't buy a pushchair or pram that doesn't fit in your boot when not in use. It's not rocket science.

Trigleorbust people like you are why we need strong disability legislation. You're a selfish disgraceful unit and I pity your kids learning life lessons and social skills from someone so selfish.

I couldn't fold my buggy - it's as big folded (and in 3 parts) as it is up and then i would have to do something with that AND hold on to my 4 and 2yo while my baby is in the sling and they try to run up and down the bus. I'd have to just get off the bus if a wheelchair user needed the space. This is why i don't use buses anymore.

That was lovely of you (and longsighted) but it is a bit OTT to expect people to shell out on special prams just so they can use public transport isn't it?

Do you think wheelchair users have the option of buying a special wheelchair that removes their disability for the duration of the journey to allow them to travel to accommodate selfish parents like you?

SaorAlbaGuBrath: We all have to wait around sometimes. I will move if I can.

sonyaya: I am not selfish. I am simply using the facilities, or trying to, like they are.

TroysMammy Wed 18-Jan-17 15:28:06

Trfleorbust I am absolutely shocked by your hideous attitude. Being disabled or being in a wheelchair because of a disability is not a lifestyle choice whereas having children is.

This. Just this.

It's sad but I've waited with my wheelchair bound daughter soooooo many times and argued with many trifles in my time. You choose to have a baby you don't choose a disability.
And yes you should have to fork out for a folding pram or sling to use the bis or be prepared to get off.

No Trifle you ^are* selfish

You could get off, you could collapse your pushchair, you could wear a sling.

You could trust a member of the public to hold your baby, or collapse the buggy for you.

Your newborn is perfectly safe in your arms

A person in a wheelchair has no choice BUT to wait and could be waiting for hours

Pull your head out of your arse and think for a change.

You are not special. This forum is full of parents who manage to use the bus and not impact on wheelchair users

The law says you MUST vacate the space for a wheelchair.

You are breaking the law if you don't and I hope one day you are taken to court over it

Trifle, you are using the facilities that are reserved for other people. That's fine, as long as the other people do not need to use them. If the other people come along, why would you think you can still use their facilities?

Teaspoon74: Because I don't think a w/c automatically should take the place of my pram on public transport? As I say, when my newborn is bigger and it is safe to take her out and fold my pram, I will. But at the moment if the bus lurched she would be at risk (and to hold her in my arms would be illegal in a car). If you think I should risk her safety, I don't think I am the selfish one.

TaliDiNozzo: Reserved for wheelchairs and pushchairs on my local buses.

Trifle I'm struggling to understand why you're being so deliberately obtuse about this. You have far more modes of transport available to you than a wheelchair user and far more options of how to get to places easily. It staggers me that you're so determined to make someone wait because it suits you, when despite your protestations there is no valid reason that you can't walk/wait for the next bus/buy a pram that folds with one hand.
You have a range of options which wouldn't mean humiliating or inconveniencing someone who uses a wheelchair, and yet you choose to. Mind = blown

@trifleorbust I get that your baby may be quite young and as you say too young for a pushchair but surely that makes it better? Why can't you take the carry cot part off and fold the wheels and plenty of space for everyone? I have a double pushchair and several other children and I've still folded down the pushchair when I was waiting for the bus as there was a wheelchair behind me in the queue. If only people had a bit of consideration for others.

theparentbible.com/man-wins-wheelchair-v-buggy-bus-case/

Have a read at this Trifle