To actually be crying because Carrie Fisher passed away?

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And not really be ashamed of it? I grew up on Princess Leia busting every body's balls and I really loved Carrie herself, and her being so candid and actually funny and clever.

Didn't know Diana personally. where did the 'didn't' go?!

Exactly navyandwhite. I have to stay away from FB at the moment because I sooo want to type "Gosh, I didn't know you knew him, you should have told me"!

Be sad. Play his music. Make a donation to one of charities he supported. Do something with your sadness.

There are famous people who have made me very sad at their demise but I don't cry. After Terry 'Wogan died I went to listen to some of his Janet & John clips and just roared with laughter, that's how I want to remember him The crying is for his wife and lovely children to do.

When Princess Diana died, my DCs were little at the time, I really couldn't be crying, they would have worried about the whole thing, one of my DCs is a bit sensitive and she would have been frightened to get in the car or something. So. I had a tear in my eye watching the funeral and William & Harry but I wasn't all out crying.

the ones on here slating emotional people are  made of stone.

FGS - how do you react to the REAL tragedies of the world? Aleppo, child poverty, slavery, animal cruelty etc etc? You poor emotional and ever so sensitive people? How ever do you manage to get through the news without a box of Kleenex? I had to leave the room this afternoon to wipe my eyes following some horrible horrible animal cruelty being shown on the tv. Don't tell me I'm made of stone because I won't weep over a celebrity I didn't know 😡

JessCress

Unfortunately your lack of empathy blinds you to the need for therapy.
If you could empathise with other people maybe you wouldn't see their opinions as "odd".

As for my argument being tenuous, at least I am putting forward an argument, you may want to do the same.

Unfortunately your lack of empathy blinds you to the need for therapy.

How unbelievably rude.

I had to leave the room this afternoon to wipe my eyes following some horrible horrible animal cruelty being shown on the tv.

So you cry over an animal you don't know but someone crying over a person they don't know is mawkish, etc?

VeryBitchy - yes indeed. Animal cruelty is avoidable and it saddens me immensely that people can be so cruel. I might cry over Carrie Fisher if she'd lived a life of unbelievable cruelty and inhumanity.

I think it's sad and, though I am not a crier personally, I think it's perfectly reasonable that people feel sad and are in tears at the death of another human being.

Thank god that short period in the early 70's when Joplin, Hendrix and Morrison died was pre social media. The internet would implode.

So, can you give me a list of things it's "OK" to cry about then, stonecircle and others? Just so we know.

Animal Cruelty - ok
Famous person dying - No
Fictional character dying - I think that was OK to cry at....??

Was I "ok" crying reading the passage of the Hazel's death yesterday? Fictional rabbit - so I'm guessing ok, but no actual cruelty, so maybe not.

FFS.

VeryBitchy - yes indeed. Animal cruelty is avoidable and it saddens me immensely that people can be so cruel. I might cry over Carrie Fisher if she'd lived a life of unbelievable cruelty and inhumanity

And that's fine. Completely understandable, I think. But at the end of the day, you are crying over an animal that you don't know and have no direct relationship with. Some people might find that incredibly mawkish and self indulgent, particularly the fact that it's "only" an animal and not a human being (not my view).

You've professed that you can't understand folks who cry over the deaths of people they don't know. And then you admit you cried over cruelty towards animals you don't know.

It's just a case of different strokes for different folks, surely?

It's unlikely that CF experienced "unbelievable cruelty" or inhumanity (although I suppose we don't know), however she certainly did die many years shy of a normal lifespan. That fact may be enough to evoke tears in some people, especially for those to whom she was meaningful in some way.

It doesn't make them any more mawkish, self indulgent, sentimental than someone who cries over images of animal cruelty, imo.

People dying is sad. That's a given. Some of us might be invested in celebs and shed a tear. That's ok, everyone is entitled to their feelings. Mass mawkishness (which generally lasts 3 days max on social media) is distasteful.

For me the take home message is be nice about people when they are bloody well alive. Don't store it up for tributes when they are gone.

But at the end of the day, you are crying over an animal that you don't know and have no direct relationship with.

Not AN animal. The ongoing brutal treatment of a whole species. Believe it or not, although I don't cry over the death of celebs, I don't have a heart of stone and I can empathise with what horrible lives some animals/children/adults endure. I don't, however, go in for the 'look at me aren't I sensitive' threads here or on social media.

Not AN animal. The ongoing brutal treatment of a whole species

Okay, a whole species. But animals at the end of the day. Lots of people wouldn't dream of doing that and would consider it to be incredibly mawkish.

Are you now saying it's ok to cry over people/animals etc that you don't know just so long as it's the whole species and not an individual?

I don't have a heart and can empathise with what horrible lives...

And some people can empathise (ie, cry) when someone they don't know dies prematurely.

I don't, however, go in for the 'look at me aren't I sensitive' threads

I'm not one for SM posts myself. But there's a long ways between prostrating oneself on FB and quietly shedding a private tear over a childhood hero, isn't there?

I find it really weird when people say 'it's ok to be sad but not ok to cry.' Eh??? I cry all the time. You might be stoic except for the death of people you 'really know' but I cry at adverts. I can cry at the passing of someone who touched my life in some way if I want to. Feels perfectly normal to me.

Same here Hopeful.

But there's a long ways between prostrating oneself on FB and quietly shedding a private tear over a childhood hero, isn't there?

Just how is starting a thread on mumsnet called, "(Aibu) to be actually crying because CF passed away) 'shedding a private tear' ?!🤔

I am sad Carrie passed away. One Christmas in the 80s I watched Star Wars for the first time on telly. The character, Leia, was so different from lead acting roles for females that I had seen in the past. She was in charge of the men, fighting men, making orders, and as a princess, didn't even marry a prince! I was fed on Disney cartoons at the time and the female leads at that time all needed to be rescued. Leia didn't, nor was she defined by the men she loved (her brother, her partner). It really broadened my horizons.

I know Carrie didn't write that character but her face is imprinted on my memory for that role. When I went to see The Force Awakens she was there again, bossing people around but vulnerable as a mother. She played it so well.

I have watched YouTube vids of her with her and saw she was a Force to be reckoned with. She sent herself up on the Big Bang Theory, just as George Michael did on Extras. She acknowledged her craziness, but she came through it. Her writing was phenomenal. She was extremely funny and perceptive.

I won't shed a tear but I am sad she is gone. Too soon.

Just how is starting a thread on mumsnet called, "(Aibu) to be actually crying because CF passed away) 'shedding a private tear' ?

Well, I didn't start it. .

But there's little to suggest from OP starting one single thread on MN that she's been clogging up FB or Twitter with copious posts or memes on the subject.

And now Debbie Reynolds is in hospital too.

She's died now too.

Debbie Reynolds has passed away from a stroke after telling her son it was 'too much'. No one wants to outlive their children whatever the age.

True. I suppose you can die of a broken heart. :(

And from someone who almost had to bury a grandmother and father in the same week, I do feel for their daughter/grandaughter and brother/son.