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AIBU?

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To actually be crying because Carrie Fisher passed away?

203 replies

OfaFrenchmind2 · 27/12/2016 18:33

And not really be ashamed of it? I grew up on Princess Leia busting every body's balls and I really loved Carrie herself, and her being so candid and actually funny and clever.

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MissWillaCather · 27/12/2016 19:49

Ok, wolver who cares about them? 🙃

You think I'm odd, that's fine, am pretty amazed by your position too.

RacoonBandit · 27/12/2016 19:49

Miss sometimes it is ok not to take AIBU so literally it is not law that you must answer each post. Maybe just let this thread pass you by.

Lweji · 27/12/2016 19:49

Correction. I was looking at this photo and it really touched me.

It's not helping that I've been listening to GM's songs.

To actually be crying because Carrie Fisher passed away?
Baylisiana · 27/12/2016 19:50

YANBU to feel sad and shed a tear. Your genuine response is what it is.
It is people who go far more over the top who are confusing to me. Do they just not grieve deeply for those they know, or have they never lost anyone? Because to actually compare, as some people do, celebrity deaths with real personal losses is incomprehensible and a bit twisted.

MissWillaCather · 27/12/2016 19:51

Ffs, it's AIBU., but if contrary views are not required I'll fuck off and do something more useful instead!.

Jux · 27/12/2016 19:52

Sometimes it's easier to cry over someone one doesn't know than it is to cry over the death of someone much closer. I, for instance have barely shed a tear over my own mother's death 6 years ago, though I loved her dearly; she lived with us so we spent much time together every day and her death has left a hole in all our lives.

I did cry over Bowie's death though I didn't know him at all.

Grieving over sleb deaths fulfills a societal need. Public figures enhance people's lives in subtle but very real ways; when someone well known dies it signifies the end of a life which touched people and inspired people, and the outpouring of grief pulls people together. This often substitutes for the private bereavements people have suffered.

I'm sure you do actually understand that, MissWilla. It would be quite odd if you didn't.

ArcheryAnnie · 27/12/2016 19:52

A lot of the celeb deaths this year are from my era, and I didn't cry at any of them, not even Bowie. But I've cried for Carrie Fisher.

Leia was a huge part of my childhood, revisited when I cheered at General Organa in TFA. Carrie herself was astonishing, a fighter, an incredibly talented woman.

And I've lost people I knew well and dearly this year, including a very close, old friend who I first got to know not long after I watched A New Hope all those years ago. And you know what? I have mourned my friend, who is one of the most significant deaths I have experienced in my life (and I've experienced quite a few), and I will continue to mourn her for a long time. And me mourning Carrie Fisher doesn't take anything away from that. My dear lost friend knew the value of strong women role models, and she knew the value of love, and she would understand completely why I have a bit of a weep over General Organa.

UnicornInDMboots · 27/12/2016 19:52

Can I suggest that when death of anyone celeb, strangers or people close to us , is involved...That people remove their judgey nasty pants.

BoneyBackJefferson · 27/12/2016 19:52

specialsubject

I agree that the recent spate of celebs are dire, most are famous for stripping off, punching people or for being related to someone famous.

The other thing that social media are responsible for is the demonisation of celebs that are more than just the pictures on a page. Or stand up for themselves and others against the media.

Meaning that we are left with the detritus or celebs from an older age.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 27/12/2016 19:54

Ffs, it's AIBU., but if contrary views are not required I'll fuck off and do something more useful instead!

Okay, bye. Smile

RortyCrankle · 27/12/2016 19:55

caitlinohara
Dh says the Queen should do the decent thing given the year we've had!

I wish your DH exactly what he wishes for the Queen.

Wolverbamptonwanderer · 27/12/2016 19:55

I'm not grieving willa no. Grieving is a specific emotion.

Not grieving for the dead of Syria doesn't mean you don't care about Syria. Obviously

Lweji · 27/12/2016 19:56

I also loved her role in When Harry Met Sally. So down to earth and a beautiful love story (more even than Sally's histrionics).

Footinmouthasusual · 27/12/2016 19:56

It's fine to feel what you feel and I think that's especially true with celebs like GM as his music reminds us of our youth and times just like Carrie.

What I find unforgivable are the people who react to tragic events that are very personal as in non famous people who suffer a tragic situation. People who put flowers 'often with their small children in tow' Angry who have never met the people concerned and talk to the press.

when my dd and others were involved In a national reported incident and we still didn't know how badly she was injured we had to watch so called friends spouting to the press! For cash. Angry

Anyway let's hope 2017 is better after Brexit and trump and Syria it sure can't be worse

Touchmybum · 27/12/2016 19:57

I haven't cried but I feel incredibly sad. Probably Bowie, Prince, GM, Terry Wogan, Victoria Wood, Ronnie Corbett, were among those that affected me most - no, I didn't know them, I don't know a lot of people who die in the public eye or otherwise, but it doesn't mean I don't feel empathy, especially for those whose work I admired.

It's just crass and bitchy to slam someone down, nothing wrong with shedding a tear if you're soft-hearted.

Finola1step · 27/12/2016 19:57

Blimey RortyCrankle, bit strong there.

klassykringle · 27/12/2016 19:57

AIBU doesn't mean you have to be mean or rude or dismissive or contradictory.

And there are pleasant and understanding ways to comment even when you disagree with something.

kilmuir · 27/12/2016 19:58

Crying???!
Never knew her.saw her on Graham Norton and she was a bit weird.
Really don't get this crying over ' celebs' nonsense

BishopBrennansArse · 27/12/2016 19:59

I'm incredibly saddened. Not really into Star Wars at all but I'll miss her for her humour and wisdom on topics such as addiction, mental health issues and feminism.

Footinmouthasusual · 27/12/2016 19:59

the queen should do the decent thing

Hideous post. I am no way a monarchist but she's a wife, mum, gran ffs and a human being show some respect.

RacoonBandit · 27/12/2016 20:00

Ffs, it's AIBU., but if contrary views are not required

Miss this is not a thread about a mil moving the dil's furniture about while she's on her holidays Hmm
The OP is clearly saddened by the news so maybe your contrary views were not needed.

AIBU is to a free pass to behave like an ass.

RacoonBandit · 27/12/2016 20:00

not

klassykringle · 27/12/2016 20:01

Well kilmuir, if you "never knew" someone at all, you'll naturally be less sad. Come back when it's a hero of yours and it's unexpectedly punched you in the gut and you're confused about it.

(Again - I'm not really upset myself, but there's no reason why others can't be.)

JessCress · 27/12/2016 20:03

Try thinking about it for a minute.

Many thanks for allowing me a minute to think Xmas Hmm

This is simply about being sad when a person you enjoyed watching, listening to, admired for many years passes away

The point being you can still enjoy watching, listening to and admiring the talents of for many years to come as their contributions (the only reasons you appreciate them and the only way you know them) will live on. Makes no difference whether they're dead or alive.

My lack of empathy for whom? The OP? I have attempted to share the OP's feelings but found I profoundly disagree with them; an opinion I would normally keep to myself had it not been asked under the title AIBU.

maddiemookins16mum · 27/12/2016 20:03

I still think the "being unreasonable" in all this is to "be actually crying".
To actually cry at something takes a build up of emotion (mostly).
You then release that with tears.

I'm not saying don't be sad, but the weeping and wailing seems extreme.