That people in the south think they are better than those in the north

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That's it really.

I'm interested in your opinion.

No idea why this seems to be a constant MN theme?

I am from the north and live in the South East now. When I lived up north I never experienced Southern bashing that happens now.

Its incredible that people can make assumptions based on a few people they have met, or more likely, some third hand accounts of the time that woman on the tube looked funny at my auntie Jean.

I wonder if people can make the connection between arriving in London determined that no Southern bastard is going to get the better of them and the way Southerners react to them?

Also....how many people who live in 'The South' were born and bred here?

That snotty Southern Git is just as likely to be from Sheffield as they are from Reading

Which just adds yet another dimension of stupidity to this thread.

The only region I think think they're the best is Yorkshire... No idea why they're so obsessed with letting everyone know.

I do hear a lot of jokes about northerners but they're only jokes and I've heard ones about southerners too.?

Mistletoe I think its connected to the political rhetoric of the last few years.
Everyone wants to claim that they are not living in a Southern idyll and therefore know what its like for 'real' people.

Because we are all holograms down here.

Ive found many a dick-ish comment made by londoners about anything outside of london

That works the other way too. As this thread proves.

I am a Southerner and was actually born here! I consider that I speak 'well' and cannot understand the constant attack on people who speak in a 'posh' manner. What is wrong with speaking properly and grammatically?

They're a lot of Southern Softies - can't take temperatures below 20 degrees and their football teams are sh*te.

Here in t' North (aka God's Own Country) we are a vastly superior breed altogether, what with our general hardiness and whippet-racing and the ability to eat a plateful of black puddens without hoyin' up.

Being at the top of the country we are much closer to heaven, obviously, and we are also blessed with the best flat caps in t'world!

Can't understand this attitude.
While living in the Middle East many moons ago Dh and I (southerners) were friends with several couples from the north.

The female half of one couple had a massive sort of chip, and once told me that she would never go to a particular holiday destination because 'all the other Brits there would be southerners' and therefore horrible snobs.

I was almost dumbfounded. Did she think Dh and I were snobs?
No, of course not.
Well then.
But I could see that despite that, nothing was going to shift that chippy feeling. In retrospect I think she probably rather enjoyed wallowing in her love-to-hate prejudice.
Her Dh (also a northerner) had no such feelings,

I'm in the midlands, I hav had the piss taken out of my accent by my late southern ex fil, country bumkin apparently, also used to refer to me as 'the carrot cruncher' ( to my face)
My relatives, as Geordie as they come, used to and still do take the piss out of my accent for being posh, and cockney. I don't think I'm either. I think there is a fair distribution of nice people and arseholes throughout North and south.

some third hand accounts of the time that woman on the tube looked funny at my auntie Jean

Aye - Ah remember that, Namechange. It were when she were on t' way back from our Herbert's daughter's friend's wedding'. (T' one wi' t' squint, not t' other one.)

Lucky for them Uncle Sydney weren't wi' her. There would ha' bin bloodshed!

I consider that I speak 'well' and cannot understand the constant attack on people who speak in a 'posh' manner. What is wrong with speaking properly and grammatically?

Why assume that speaking "posh" is synonymous with "speaking properly and grammatically"?

I "speak properly and grammatically" but probably don't sound "posh", in that I have a strong regional accent. The two are not one and the same.

don't be ridiculous, every mancunian that ever wore a pair of flares and a hoodie can tell you they are better than everyone else who ever lived, anywhere, ever.

As a young Midlander when I lived in the south I'd hear loads of 'funny' comments about flat caps, whippets, barm cakes (whatever the hell they are) and dark satanic mills, cobbles, etc.

I met my husband (Londoner) who wasn't at all snobbish and his workmates (back in the Midlands) thought that all Londoners were posh ... then Eastenders came on the telly and that 'educated' them.

In the South West no comments were made as there were so many of us who'd moved there from elsewhere (in fact quite a lot of Northerners) for 'a better life.' Life could still be stressful though. I do believe that the air is cleaner in the south with less pollution. I'd still live there but for circumstances.

I don't think any large group of people all think the same about anything. But my sister, who lives in London, said the other day that she felt 'judged' because a friend of mine asked if she was from the same Northern town that I now live in. I wish I'd had the presence of mind to question her about it, because why on earth would she think she was being judged, unless she felt being from my town was a negative thing? She really did not like not being recognised as the superior London type she clearly feels she is.

I remember the new girl at school remarking that I couldn't possibly understand something because I was middle class. I was incredulous at such a way off the mark observation, replied "me middle class, what planet are you from", to which another friend replied, no she's from Wolverhampton.

Ignorance exists on both sides of the divide and just because you aren't on the receiving end of a prejudice doesn't mean others aren't.

flappy

Seriously, I have been on the tube and had people glaring at me. Daring me to say something in a plummy voice about their accents/manners/clothing.

They would be sorely disappointed if I did. They might learn something about what someone from Islington really sounds like though

very me too. 'cept my regional accent is from London.

Threads like this annoy me more than they should. It is so irritating to be told you must surely think a certain way because of where you're from. And it doesn't matter what you say or do, someone's made their mind up about you based on fairly abitrary criteria and that's that.

Whenever I've experienced this in real life (sometimes from northerners and sometimes from others) I've found it equally frustrating!

I'm from Essex originally so EVERYONE thinks they are superior to me

you forget about Kent, AKA Kant. Give me Page Hall over Kent any day! the term Chav originated from Chatham

Your OP doesn't make sense. HTH

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3067158/Northerners-are-friendlier-than-southerners.html
I think it is a widely held view.

Definitely there is a huge difference between London and the rest of the south in terms of thinking things are better. One major thing I noticed when I moved to London for university was that loads of the people in my halls and classes were from London/kent/Essex etc. none of them had wanted to move away from London, not even for 3 years, because what's the point of going anywhere smaller?

Bizarre. Manchester is a great university, but it was the last one I would have applied to. Why would you want to go to university in the same city you've always lived close to?!?

I'm a nornather born and bred...moved down south....house prices are horrendous,where I live,,but near dh job..kids settled ect ect...been here 20 yrs.but still a northaner at ❤️

(Obviously that's not the case if you're living at home but these people weren't!)

People can and will think what they want.

I was schooled abroad and I do think I'm a cut above. No thanks to education or wealth... just good breeding

There may not be active prejudices in daily lives, but take for example accents - the accent and dialect that developed in the south has been dubbed "standard english" and considered the "proper" way of speaking. Yet why? Surely it's an historic issue (on I admittedly know little about). But the two most prestigious educational institutions are in the south, the monarchy and the government are based in the south, the BBC for years forced employees to speak with Received Pronunciation ("standard" english) and even now you see very little northern representation on television, aside from comedians. There is always, from what I can see, the sense that the south is more prestiguoud. (As someone from Northern Ireland who moved south before moving north, I'm pretty unbiased.)

also - my daughter and her friend went to interviews at Cambridge the other week, my daughter's accent was called "scummy" ("oh youre from the north - that explains your scummy accent") and her friend was asked why he didn't apply to a "happy northern university like Sheffield Hallam" by the tutors interviewing him. My niece also had an interview at Goldsmiths last year, where she was asked if she saw people getting stabbed in the streets when she mentioned where she was from.

Though i guess there is some inverse snobbery - my DCs often mock the southern accent when pretending to be posh.