That people in the south think they are better than those in the north

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That's it really.

I'm interested in your opinion.

Just remembered that someone I know went to University in Sheffield and was from Norfolk originally. His family fell out with him because his head had been turned by living in a fancy city

He never went back. lord knows what they made of that!

I am a Southerner and was actually born here! I consider that I speak 'well' and cannot understand the constant attack on people who speak in a 'posh' manner. What is wrong with speaking properly and grammatically?

Absolutely nothing but why is it a feature of being 'southern'? There are people who speak properly and grammatically in the Midlands and the North also.

Its grim up North and we are all tight bastards. No need for anyone to look up or down on anyone its the truth, if you go far enough North we even become proud of it.

As an Australian living in Yorkshire i've noticed the change in myself, whenever i buy a pint now i always without hesitation ask for a top up, all beer is terrible more than about 20 miles from my village. When i come home from working overseas i hide in my snug, light the fire and sit sipping tea and scoffing biscuits until i feel suitably Yorkshire again.

It's very contagious!

I'm in the south and don't think I'm better or worse than anyone else.

Don't be ridiculous. If anything I think we might be envious. I'm in the south, in a boring town without much going for it, our three bedroom house without a garage is worth £500,000. A four bed with a garage (what we'd really like), would cost us £650,000. Not for something particularly nice, but the cheapest for that size on rightmove. I don't believe that wages in the south are much higher, if at all, unless you work in London (and the you have to factor in the costs of transport, which are high). My children could probably never afford to buy round here, same as we could not afford to buy in the town we come from, but I wouldn't encourage them to anyway. Unless it's somewhere beautiful like the West Country I can't see why anyone would particularly want to live in the south.

I haven't experienced anyone thinking they are better from living in 'The South'. However, I have experienced a few Londoners who are totally mystified why anyone lives 'Up North". If you ask them to visit you and you live north of Oxford then you may as well have suggested they fly to the moon.

No. But I do think a lot of people in the north believe this to be true. Not sure if it's down to the media view of us in the south being all yummy mummies and daddies living in our perfect architect-designed houses looking down on the people in the frozen northern wastes.

I once went to a friend's party in a northern town and when we arrived, the whispers went round that the London lot had arrived. I can promise you now, this wouldn't happen in reverse.

I really don't understand why northern people think southerners look down on them. Maybe they've come across some southern twats. But they're just twats, who probably also look down on the people in the (smaller) house down the road too.

There was a long line for popcorn

I am a northerner with even after 35 years of London living still has an accent which is very distinct. I don't give a second thought to those living in the north except on hot sunny days when I do appreciate where I live. Never left the house without a cardy in the 18 years I lived up north.

and her friend was asked why he didn't apply to a "happy northern university like Sheffield Hallam" by the tutors interviewing him.

I don't believe this but if it is true you should complain: those people would never be allowed to interview again.

Northerners used to be about 10 years behind the times ( fashion wise ) but since online shopping took over I think things have changed.

Apart from that we're all the same really.

Most people who consider themselves 'northern' aren't actually from the north anyway... I mean, have you SEEN how far south Manchester is?

I think sizzled it is people who haven't really been out of their own backyard.

I think that equally many Londoners/ those from SE have never been to the North. So their views are framed by nonsense, like DH's school friends (another friend of his our house in the Midlands was the furthest birth she had ever been). She'd been on cruises around the world though and is a nice woman (warm and friendly lol).

Many Northerners will have maybe visited Big Ben and been to the Theatre but that's about it. The throngs of 'unfriendly' people run past (do they expect Londoners to individually greet everyone as you would in the Welsh hills...?) and their views are reinforced.

allieinwonderland - oh god, you've brought back a flashback of my truly appalling oxford interview when I was 17... the tutor looked at my personal statement, wrinkled his nose, and said, "a grammar school? a grammar school? good lord. I didn't know we still had those, even up north."

it wasn't a true grammar school, just a bog-standard private school.

I know they deliberately try to be dicks, to start a debate and see what you're made of, blah blah (sounds like your DC had the same experience!), but why would you even think of that as a thing to be dickish about?!

Definitely there is a huge difference between London and the rest of the south....

Definitely?

See my earlier posts about the ridiculousness of making statements based on a narrow personal experience.

YABU, I've lived in both ends of the country, I never noticed that type of attitude from northerners or southerners.

Having family in both camps - only a few northern ones have displayed inverse snobbery to the southern ones - that we think are so posh - otherwise no one gives a shit

I'm a northerner living in the south and I haven't really come across this. There are the odd few stereotypical comments but I think this happens with northerners and southerners.

Most people who consider themselves 'northern' aren't actually from the north anyway... I mean, have you SEEN how far south Manchester is?

Yeah I have questioned by staunchly Northern friend on how far north of Sheffield one can drive. If it's in the North it is definitely the south of the north 😂😂

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Thee're a true Tyke - nae dowt about it.

Can Ah come round thine, and tha can sell me a cuppa tea and we'll have a good auld blether about t' South ().

Ah'm a Geordie (but as thi can tell, Ah'm bi-dialectical) and if tha likes, Ah'll bring a tripe and pig's trotter barmcake f' t' snap (tha can owe me for it).

Tyke to Geordie Translation.

Yer a Tyke aalreet! Nee doot aboot thet, hinney.

A'll come round yours and you can put the kettle on and w'll have a brew and a good bit crack on about Sutheners ()

Ah,m a Geordie (and proud of ut!) but Ah speak "Northern" . If y' fancy ut, Ah'll bring a tripe and pig's trotter stotty f' w' bait. (Nae charge)

Tyke/Geordie to "Southern" translation

You are indeed a true Yorkshireman through and through my fine fellow, and none could ever doubt it.

May I suggest that I impose on your hospitality, and we can share a cup of finest Darjeeling (I will of course recompense you financially) and exchange our tales of Southern behaviour we have encountered. I shall fetch some cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off, because I have no idea what a black pudding may be, and pig's trotters are aliens to my diet (though I will happily consume jellied eels by the pint). I will be delighted to provide the sandwiches at my own expense.

Please feel free to be as offended as you like.

I'm a northerner who has lived in London for 30 years but am moving back north. I think some northerners have a chip on their shoulder....John Lewis recently opened in Leeds to much negativity on Leeds FB sites ...." it's not for the likes of us. "
Laughable.

Namechange I think a lot of people genuinely think that London is populated entirely by bankers, journalists/media types and hipsters. Yes, there are some very rich people here but the vast majority of us are like the vast majority of people everywhere else i.e. Ordinary.
There is a permanent undercurrent of London bashing on here but lazy stereotypes about anywhere else are jumped on from a great height.

You do realise that a lot of people in the South are actually from the North?

I think (or hope?) that the OP is exaggerating to make their point. But I can kind of see the point. IME there are often strange ideas about what the north is like. At university some friends were surprised when they saw some pictures I'd taken of the countryside around where I lived and it was actually nice. I didn't feel looked down on though.

I think there can be some chippyness the other way. Mostly fed by how London-centric this country can often feel. But that's not north vs south, more London vs everywhere else.

Also...I was told very seriously that if I moved to London and fell over in the street, no-one would stop and help, they would just trample over me