To hate this goverment?

[malificent7]

Brexit
. the pandering to UKIP values
TMay is deperate to pysh the button!
The rich getting ri her and the poor pooorer.
Public services being slashed

Hate em

If you are going to say you hate this government, you should give us an example of one you would prefer.

Is there a prime minister/government from the last 150 years you would prefer? Or are you just one of the ever-resentful types?

Sheldon, do you know me too? If not, how are you privy to information about my dh and children?

This is actually getting a tad scary.

Is there stalking going on or have I not read the thread properly?

I'm interested to know what your game is, oohits. If it's to scare me, then you're succeeding. The relevant call has been made.

Don't make this another brexit argument, that's how things will never improve, blame those who let companies not have to pay tax, who push for privatisation of NHS and rails to profit the rich owners, those who propose and vote for cutting benefits, slashing school funding, making everyone's life a fucking misery except of course the rich. Conquer and divide is their policy and the reason we keep letting them get away with this shit.

People need to see these two graphs, because what they show is absolutely scandalous.

The first one shows labour productivity against wages. Labour productivity is just a fancy word for a measure of the amount of work that is done in an hour. (More technically: the amount of real GDP produced by an hour of labour). As you can see, people are producing more and more value per hour of labour, but wages are not rising by anything like as much.

So where is that extra money going? Graph 2 shows something very simple: the growth in income after tax from 1979-2007. You can see, I think, VERY clearly that the top 1% are benefitting in a hugely disproportionate way from the value that is being created by all of us.

Both of these are taken from the introduction to Michael Jacobs's new book Rethinking Capitalism.

Trawling someone's posts to get info to use against them is pretty shitty behaviour, and suggesting you know where she lives is bordering on threatening.

Why have you name changed? oohitscold
(and some of your info is wrong)

Good. Goes to show i wasn't trawling. I haven't name changed. I just joined again as I was so pissed off with the deliberate omission of information from your posts.

The government has presided over a massive increase in debt and borrowing.

They can keep blaming labour but has everyone forgotten the worldwide baking crisis?

Have they forgotten northern rock and people queuing to withdraw their money?

Do they not click that that catastrophic event was the trigger for economic recession

And let me remind people that the Tories supported labours spending plans after the 2008 crisis. Then when it came to power, they knew that they had to scrub any chance of labour getting in to power so made out as if it was all labour's fault.

The Tories chose austerity. They could have chosen to invest but they did not.

(I'm not a labour voter by the way).

Anyway, people should read Clement Attlee's maiden speech. His words are still relevant today.

The Tories don't have the answers for the majority. They never have and never will. They're only interested in the rich and not everyone can be rich. The clue is in their name - they are conservatives and want things to stay as they were with the rich being in charge, ruling over the poor.

And thus it ever was.

There's no party around to represent "the majority". Labour can't do it at the moment and the others are too fragmented.

We are screwed as a country.

oohits you are one strange cookie...

it was the labour government which encouraged mass immigration from eastern europe, which has kept low skilled wages so low. they could have had a window of 7 years before people were accepted but decided not to (presumably because they thought immigrants would vote labour). This has also put pressure on services and housing, especially the type of resources needed by the less well off.

The seventy three pound quote is just to garner sympathy or for a hidden agenda. There's a minimum amount the government has to pay in benefits and it's not that amount, not by far.
I'd try looking a bit harder and checking out dates. My youngest are 20.

dreamingof - did you even look at those graphs I posted above? The money in this country is going to the rich, not to immigrants. (Well, unless those immigrants are really really wealthy!)

Sheldon - from your posts it's clear you're a stalky strange person.

Coo.

Good. Goes to show i wasn't trawling. I haven't name changed. I just joined again as I was so pissed off with the deliberate omission of information from your posts.
See above.

shovethe - did u read my post? I didn't say the bulk of the money was going to immigrants. I said immigrants was keeping low pay down and resources for the lower incomes were in higher demand.

dreaming - well, one answer might be to tax those top 1% who are benefiting disproportionately from the labour of all of us. Then there would be sufficient resources, wouldn't there?

Oh good it's turned into the usual pish of immigrants and disabled people being blamed for all the ills in society instead of the ruling elite who don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and their toff cronies.

This has also put pressure on services and housing, especially the type of resources needed by the less well off

Housing is an issue because not enough houses have been built and social homes were sold off. Not sure you can blame immigrants
The last time I checked, the NHS and social care were under strain because of the ageing population. Not immigration.