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AIBU to ask for more sex...

427 replies

PseudoDad · 07/12/2016 20:45

Now I've got your attention with the thread - I need some advice from ladies/couples.

I've been married to my wife for 6 years. We have a wonderful son who is 18 months old. I am happy in every aspect of life except one...the bedroom.

Since our son was conceived almost 2 1/2 years ago we have had sex just 5 times. Prior to this, we weren't at it like rabbits but I was very happy with twice a week.

We both work hard jobs and as you know it can be exhausting bringing up a child. However, going up to 6 months without sex just isn't enough for me. My wife is a wonderful woman in every way. I think she is beautiful and has kept her looks/figure perfectly after our baby. She is the only woman I want. Its due to this though that I feel so down about the whole thing.

I've tried talking to her about this - but its hard without coming across as the total nob of a husband who is pushing for sex. I understood her concerns when she was pregnant and the fact she needed a break after birth - but when is enough enough?

How should I approach this in a way that respects my wife - but stops this eating away at me?

A x

OP posts:
myoriginal3 · 08/12/2016 16:29

You're a llama. I wouldn't have expected you to understand.

Whatallama · 08/12/2016 16:42

Given that I'm a llama that has made it on to mumsnet, and is capable of using a computer humour me...

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 08/12/2016 16:42

original is saying that because the OP is so disgusting in wanting to have sex with his wife (together with being ugly of course) that the wife will meet someone else and they have amazing sex and live happily ever after.

Crazeecurlee · 08/12/2016 16:49

Hi OP. I've read your responses but not RTFT, so apoogies if someone has already pointed this out, for the essay that follows and if I'm completely off the mark.

It sounds like the problem is with the work balance here and the sex is a manifestation of that deeper problem. You appear to be a bit resentful of the fact that your DW was not willing to increase her hours at work and let you look after your child more (i.e so that you both have a more equal share of childcare/work) and in response perhaps? you are not doing as much at home as you should (or your DW thinks you should). You said yourself that this was a sore spot; you wanted your DW's position and your wife thinks you don't do enough around at home. So I think your answer is there.

If it is, I don't think the sex situation is going to get any better until this is sorted out. On the one hand some of your responses are a bit ridiculous Hmm: your posts seem to suggest that by working you are doing more to care for the child/ under more stress/work harder that your wife. However I am a big supporter of men being involved in childcare, so your wife refusing to have a more equal arrangement did make me see things differently and I have sympathy for you on that front OP.

In her defense:

a) you said you had a conversation about work/childcare towards the end of her maternity leave? Was the current situation the first arrangement and you wanted to change it? If so I can see her POV as the current arrangement may have influenced her decision to have the baby. However at the same time you're not entirely happy, so again, sympathies to you OP.

b) you did agree to the arrangement and you can't continue to resent (or punish) her. IMHumbleO, the default should be that each parent spends the same amount of hours working, whether that be at your NHS job or with the child, and you should both have the same amount of free time when not working (at a job or with the child). This should obviously be amended if one of the parents is clearly struggling.

I would start with a serious reevaluation of the hours you are spending working and the hours of free time you both get. If you are working less hours than your wife I would sort that ASAP.

If you really are working the same hours and have the same free time, I would argue against your first response to say that you should be prepared to put in a few extra hours to take some pressure off of your wife. At the end of the day, you still feel able to have sex (i.e you are functioning as you were before and seem to be coping well from your posts) and she does not (i.e she is not coping as well as you are). It doesn't need to be indefinite, obviously. If that makes you feel resentful (and your posts really do indicate this, not necessarily resentful due to lack of sex, but the working issue) then you either have a lack of empathy for your wife and/or an unrealistic view of the strains of childcare or (and this is what it seems to me) you're resentful because you offered and wanted to split childcare and work-time more equally between you both and she declined. Now you don't feel it is fair to work and to spend more time doing household things.

If it's either of the first two (which honestly do not come across in your posts but I don't know you so am throwing it out there anyway) you probably deserve the flaming you're getting, and I'm not sure anyone can make you think differently but perhaps counseling can help. If it is the last, then the childcare arrangement is clearly a sticking point and needs to be addressed asap. Counselling might also help here (have never done couple counselling so can't recommend, just something you might want to think about). Is it too late to change the childcare arrangements? If it isn't, talk about it and try to come to a solution where both of you are happy and not resentful. If it is too late, talk about it anyway, as you both still need to get over this and feel supported and non resentful. Hopefully then you are both happier and any other issues that stem from this (i.e. sex) will also resolve themselves.

Good luck OP!

myoriginal3 · 08/12/2016 16:50

Yes. Thanks for translating. into Martian

Timeforteaplease · 08/12/2016 16:51

So for the last six months I've tried a little charm offensive. I've arranged a babysitter each month (I know not a lot) and we've gone out for dinner and had wine. Its all we can manage time wise sadly.
I've also made a point of texting her each day with a compliment or just to ask her about her day.

So the problem is your wife knows you are not doing these things for her, but for yourself to increase the chances of sex.

If you did not do them before - when you were having lots of sex - I imagine she will see these tokens for exactly what they are - actions that are in your own self interest.

You have implied that you were both in fairly similar roles and in a fairly equal relationship before the DC arrived. But the barriers have shifted, and not for the better. What typically happens is that the house work does start to fall to the wife to do in her time with the DC. And not just that, also all the organising of the kids, child care, the house, social stuff, family stuff and the million crappy jobs that need to happen to keep a family moving forwards. Often the DH is happy to let this slide and will expect the DW, on her 2 days at home, to pick up all of this. The DH decides what he will do and the DW has to pick up everything else. DW ends up being half doormat, half secretary and half maid. But more importantly she loses a massive degree of control - she probably ends up having to ask DH to do stuff, which of course he may or may not do, because he has choice. The DW doesn't have a choice.

If your DW has gone from being your equal to some sort of underling, then you won't make any progress until that is resolved.
I'm sure you will deny this is the case. But maybe you should try asking her how she feels about the division of responsibilities.

RichardBucket · 08/12/2016 16:52

For most couples, I don't think there's a solution to this problem. The partner with the higher sex drive has to accept it, or leave.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 08/12/2016 16:55

Oh look we're back to the housework again.

Timeforteaplease · 08/12/2016 16:59

It's not about housework - it's about control, or the lack of it.

thiswashelpful · 08/12/2016 17:01

Yet another post about mismatched level of interests in sex ... yawn ...

As priority try to sort it out, don't let it drag on. It will make you both miserable.

Hope it works out! If not, then be realistic and accept that moving on might be best for you both (I've had to do that with fiance in the past, easier with no kids, but the best decision I ever made).

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 08/12/2016 17:02

Sounds like it's about housework to me. That and a whole load of assumptions.

donajimena · 08/12/2016 17:04

Richard twice a fucking year? That's not a low sex drive.
Perhaps they could schedule it in for the start and end of BST?
I bet the wife would be crying and wondering why he left if he did leave her too.
The reasons she may not want to are numerous but they need to talk about it.
I'm often not 'in the mood' as in feeling oh I could do with a shag now but I sure as hell am if I'm shown .. ahem.. attention. But then I find my partner attractive.
I'm guessing some of you on here would scream coercion if your partners/husbands/wives took that approach. Women's libido is a funny thing. Sometimes if you go along with it you'll find yourself in the mood.
I appreciate that this statement will get picked apart and twisted by some. But I am absolutely not advocating any coersion or against anyones will.

PeteSwotatoes · 08/12/2016 17:05

Sometimes if you go along with it you'll find yourself in the mood.

And the rest of the time you're just having sex you don't want.

donajimena · 08/12/2016 17:06

sexualadviceassociation.co.uk/lack-sexual-desire-andor-arousal/
This is what I am talking about

honeylulu · 08/12/2016 17:57

I know what you're talking about dona.
I sometimes "make an effort" if I think my husband has gone a long time without (I know he wants to but he doesn't pester) and I'm not bothered either way.
Almost always I get into it very quickly and think "this is amazing, I wish we did this every night!" But it's as if my body forgets about sex until I'm actually doing it.
(I do get horny anyway sometimes too.)

DailyFail1 · 08/12/2016 18:37

Have you considered OP that she has fallen out of love and this might just be a symptom of the problem? Not sure if you've seen a marriage counsellor yet - if not that should be the next step. She wasn't asexual when you met, you married her presumably because you loved her and your sex life was healthy, and if she's not making any effort to fix the issue then she doesn't want to. You might be better off out of this relationship, and may find a better more loving partner for you.

Holowiwi · 08/12/2016 18:47

Get conselling together and fast if this continues I foresee a post in a couple of years talking about how her 'D'H has left her and it was all of a sudden and people replying about what a bastard he is.

Trifleorbust · 08/12/2016 18:51

I do wonder about people and their swiftness to contemplate ending a marriage over a temporary dearth of sex. I have been with my DH for 12 years and expect to be with him (God willing) for the rest of our lives. If we live to 80, that's nearly 60 years. If a couple of those years don't involve a lot of sex because children, because exhaustion, because ill health, because resentment, because whatever, is that really so very important in the grand scheme of things? I'm not saying the OP isn't right to worry and I think he should definitely aim to find out where the issue lies, but it shocks me that so many people are so short-term in their thinking.

Blossomdeary · 08/12/2016 19:00

Exactly trifle.

donajimena · 08/12/2016 19:12

pete bollocks I'd never do anything I didn't want to. I always enjoy it. Its just sometimes not on my radar if you see what I mean. Sometimes it takes a hand on your thigh or wherever to put it on your radar.
I've been in relationships where a touch is unwelcome and it was then I realised that the relationship wasn't right.
I'm beginning to wonder whether some people with a low libido would suddenly find they had one if they had a different partner...

Artistic · 08/12/2016 20:23

Can you give her a whole day away from baby, home, multi-tasking and being touched & see how she feels that night? Just a trial? You might need to do it more than once to get her to want to be touched. On such days you may feel less inclined though as you may feel touched out like her!

DailyFail1 · 08/12/2016 23:04

Trifle it isn't about the lack of sex per se but that she isn't doing anything to solve the problem, and likely doesn't view it as an important problem despite OP telling her that it is to him. It's not healthy to have that kind of disregard in the relationship. If she doesn't want to even recognise a problem despite OP telling her, there's not much left in the relationship. This post could be about anything - that kind of disregard would still be grounds for divorce in my opinion.

myoriginal3 · 08/12/2016 23:09

Except the op isn't looking for advice on divorce, he is looking for means to cajole, coerce, blackmail his wife into sex.
The solution is simple. Go.

Trifleorbust · 09/12/2016 02:18

DailyFail1: You can't really say how she views it, you only have his side of the issue. Projecting massively there.

Toadinthehole · 09/12/2016 03:49

myoriginal3

You've made your point and I think there is little purpose in repeating it.