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To think this was unfair and unprofessional of my sons teacher?

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burgundyandgoldleaves · 28/11/2016 15:50

My son is nine and in Year 5.

Over the years my husband has made a bit of a name for himself I daresay and has complained about various things. (I've told him not to.)

Today, DS got into a bit of trouble - nothing hugely major, he was, along with others, somewhere he shouldn't have been at lunch time. There was some rubbish in this room that they weren't responsible for. The teacher came in and started shouting at the boys for leaving the mess. DS tried to tell her they weren't responsible and the teacher shouted at him not to interrupt (fine) and "send your dad in if you're not happy, I don't care!"

AIBU or is the latter part of this statement quite unfair? DS was pretty embarrassed and I'm now trying to work this so he doesn't tell his dad!

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burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 16:49

Demon, so you seem to be saying that I should accept a teacher being unpleasant to my child because I chose to stay married to a twat.

Well - no, I don't think I do.

Even if I were to divorce DH tomorrow hmm, tempting would this sever his contact with our children? No. You know it wouldn't. One of the huge problems when we were separated last time was that he actually wielded more control outside of the family home than in it and making himself 'difficult' about DSs education was one of these ways.

He isn't all bad. We have had a lot of good times and good memories. He also had a difficult upbringing and education was how he managed to counter that difficult upbringing, so of course he values it.

However, I'm not at all angry - I have become, with some of the more ridiculous statements, mildly perturbed at best and I am lost as to how people are extrapolating words like 'angry' 'working yourself into a froth' 'steaming in' to me, when I'm perfectly calm!

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mrscarrotironfoundersson · 30/11/2016 16:55

To be perfectly fair here... Burgundy hasn't asked "shall I LTB?"

She's been more honest than she really needed to be, as much as I still think SWBU I think a lot of people have projected onto her marriage. Chill your beans folks.

SomersetMaughan · 30/11/2016 17:03

OK I'll phrase it differently.
When the teacher said "(OP DS name) I don't care if you bring your DF in" , did the teacher tell you if she responded this way because your DS had just said "I'll get my dad to come in to school" , after being the initial telling-off?

I know you say earlier in this thread that it's a very unlikely thing for your DS to say; but did you actually get to the bottom of whether DS said it or not?
Or was this not mentioned at the meeting yesterday?
It's not clear from:
I just said that I believed there had been a small incident yesterday, and made DS apologise. I then sent him out and said that DS had claimed he had been told to bring his dad in. Teacher said yes, she'd had discussions (in other words altercations) with DH previously. I sympathised with her grin but explained it had come over to DS in the way described here. She agreed she could see how it could be interpreted like that. We wished one another good days. That was it

Thanks - if DS never said it, I agree with you that it's unprofessional of teacher. If your DS did say it, then I don't think the teacher was unprofessional

ThanksSpanx · 30/11/2016 17:11

somserset OP just answered that question a post or two ago.

Someone might be along in a second to tell you to read the thread more carefully Grin

NerdsAndMonsters · 30/11/2016 17:14

X-post I'm afraid ThanksSpanx.
(Too busy typing to read- slender- before you start !Grin)

NerdsAndMonsters · 30/11/2016 17:16

Epic name change fail Blush

aginghippy · 30/11/2016 17:17

Kudos to you burgundy for sticking with this thread where we are all saying YWBU. Most people would have abandoned it ages ago.

We probably all need to get out more Grin

burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 17:17

No, he didn't say anything about his dad, whoever I am supposed to call you.

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burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 17:18

It's cold :)

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ThanksSpanx · 30/11/2016 17:18

Ha! nerds happens to the best of us!

burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 17:32

I'm very interested in why somerset used that name for a few innocuous posts in May then switched back today.

Huge coincidence.

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slenderisthenight · 30/11/2016 17:32

I have a feeling that something really interesting just happened and I don't have the brains to work out what it was...

burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 17:33

Neither do I slender, but I don't like it.

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slenderisthenight · 30/11/2016 17:34

I shall lie awake wondering who was pretending to be whom. The thread is ruined for me.

slenderisthenight · 30/11/2016 17:35

We're mostly done here, though...

demonchilde · 30/11/2016 17:52

No Burgundy I'm not saying you should have to accept it as such, just accept that similar issues are likely to crop up in the future, and if he continues to act like this then similar things are likely to occur that will (unfairly) impact on you and DS in some way. Abusive, shitty behaviour attracts a response and confrontation. It goes with the territory.

No, it is not fair when people lump you in with him, but it will happen regardless. And yes, each time it does you are free to confront whoever does it, but I can't help thinking that in confronting only THEIR shitty behaviour and not HIS that you are avoiding the root of the problem, hence the likelihood of similar in the future. Two people were in the wrong here - why is only her behaviour being called out?

And yes, I see what you are saying about if you separated. But surely it'd be preferable to be thought of as the ex of a twat rather than the long suffering poor wife of one?

And the thing about control and why he 'needed it'. That shouldn't be present or necessary at all in any normal person or relationship. And it sounds to me like hes controlling you too, subtly. It's really shit and unbalanced if you have a relationship with someone you can't even talk to for fear of his response, or because you know it's pointless because he doesn't care enough about your feelings to be able to compromise.

And 'good times' and his ability to be nice can be a blessing and a curse, they can be what keeps you in a relationship where the other side of the coin is twattish, abusive relationship with someone who doesn't care enough about your feelings to stop acting like that.

I'm not telling OP to LTB, just my take on the whole situation, from someone who was once the child of 'that man' then the wife of 'that twat', who knows the sort of shit being associated with people like that (wrongly, yes) brings to you and your children's door. And someone who knows what a relief it is to not have to deal with any of that drama or bolllocks anymore.

burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 17:55

All I can say to that demon is he isn't 'a twat' - with the school, yes, conceded, but this is due to a myriad of reasons.

Many people - most? - would say what a wonderful father and husband and person he is and pillar of the community. The school would not.

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demonchilde · 30/11/2016 17:56

Oh yeah- and btw, if he values education then why is he so happy to piss off the people trying to provide his son with one ? He really does sound quite horrible, you know.

burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 17:58

Because he didn't feel our child was getting the best education, being pushed enough or being given the opportunities he should. Don't have a go at me, please - that's his stance on the matter.

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slenderisthenight · 30/11/2016 18:05

To be fair, everyone has their faults. The OP's DH hasn't done anything technically wrong. He's tried to tell people how to do their job. Incredibly irritating. That's it.

Pedantic, tedious, irritating he may be. A twat in this very narrow context.

No evidence he's abusive.

demonchilde · 30/11/2016 18:06

And all I can say Burgundy is that is a major, major backtrack there. I can't bothered to go back through the thread and find examples, but you yourself said he acted like a twat to the teachers.

I always hear 'pillar of the community' somewhere in conversations like these - usually used in the manner you have used it - to describe those who have not yet seen through/ the shitty side of someone like that.

You have had a lot of people saying similar to what I have that yes, her behaviour was wrong, but that there is a bigger issue here you be addressing - him.

You just don't seem ready or willing to hear that yet.

burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 18:11

I don't know what you want me to say, demon, I'm sorry.

Sorry I am married to a man who isn't always reverent of teachers, who sometimes has little respect for them and shows it?

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NerdsAndMonsters · 30/11/2016 18:12

It's nothing sinister Slender & Burgundy !
Talk about conspiracy theories!
Just used different IT hardware briefly, with old username Somerset.
Was Somerset now Nerds, hope that clears it up Grin

demonchilde · 30/11/2016 18:12

Slender - a need for control. A history of upsetting and being rude and patronising to teachers. A lady who can't have a conversation about how he acted and it's impact because she fears his reaction. A child who would fear telling his father about any problems at school for fear of his reaction.

They are all the behaviours and actions of an abusive person.

burgundyandgoldleaves · 30/11/2016 18:16

I'm not disputing any of that which is why I'm slightly annoyed I've been accused of a 'major, major backtrack'

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