To seriously wonder what it will take for the Left to realise hurling insults at their core voters won't win votes?

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guardian link

Now, I realise the above is about Trump, but if I didn't have to get ready for work I am sure I could find easily enough any number of articles from the last twelve months stating that core Labour voters are too stupid to know what is good for them, wrong, misguided, naive, foolish and poor judges of political and economical climates.

I keep thinking that at any key moment the light will go on and the penny will drop and the left will realise and identify this is the very problem and why they aren't being elected.

They aren't losing because of stupid voters but largely because these voters dislike being called stupid. I am not necessarily advocating a U turn insofar as policies go but in the way they are presented to the electorate.

Yet after every crushing blow I see articles like the one above and I have to reach the conclusion that there is a serious disconnect here as if I can identify the source of the problem and Labour/left seemingly cannot, and I am no genius, I truly can't see them ever getting back in.

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Sorry, might not be clear which bit is GS's quote. It is the paragraph from "Second we failed" to "ignorant or both"

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Gary Younge can see the problem to. I do believe he is left wing.

Ridiculing Brexiters is a sure way to lose the argument for staying in the EU - Gary Younge - The Guardian

www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2016/may/31/brexiters-eu-leavers-remain

If, come 24 June, the liberal establishment should wonder what could have possessed voters to be so stupid and small-minded as to vote to leave the European Union, they could do worse than ponder whether they didn’t win people over precisely because they treated them as “stupid” and “small-minded”.

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According to the government report I read, the wage reduction is very very small. It mentions for instance £25 per year less in the care sector.
I don't know what figures she is talking about. She probably means the pace of it in some areas? Mostly, immigrants are in London. I'll copy and paste when I have the time.
Re: the French person in the Daily Mail, obviously it's outrageous, but it's to do with how the government distributes benefits, if you want to take issue with anything.
A British family could claim the same.
Not that I'm saying they should, obviously. But we have to argue properly and answer each others' points carefully if we are to get somewhere.
Someone said 'EU citizens take in fewer benefits than British citizens & south said 'not true!' & posted the Mail's article. How is that article a roof that EU citizens, as a group, draw fewer benefits that natives?
The French guy had been in the UK since 2012 and he was studying mental health nursing, so it's not like he had just arrived snd went into a 'Mickey Mouse course'. He had also not jumped any queue. Not that it makes it an ethical thing for him to do, but it has nothing to do with the debate about whether immigration is really the root of this country's relative problems.