Aibu to think some people are utter scum

[crystalballbroke]

I'm so angry.

Had an evening out to watch a free council run firework display at a local heritage park.

We arrived early but the place was already heaving, so we bought some burgers/hot dogs to kill some time and as we were all hungry.

Standing with dh and the 3 dc and all of a sudden something made us all jump, and I felt something hit my hand hard.

Youngest ds6's face is covered in egg yolk. Whoever lobbed it had run as they'd thrown it. Luckily it didn't break in his face as it hit my hand first, but he took the fall out.

Why would someone do this? Luckily ds is placid and didn't care once he'd been cleaned up (as best we could) but my middle ds was in tears, my eldest fuming wanting to hunt them down. Egg covered coats/clothes and my hand (despite me wearing gloves) is swollen and bruised as got me on the knuckle.

Complete scum bag, I hope they get their comeuppance.

I think it's the sheer lack of empathy that is the most worrying.

I've had a 3 teens jump out at my baby DS and DD6, hiding around the corner, just jumped out and screamed at them, then started laughing. I asked them what was so funny? Do you think it's funny to make a baby cry? Really weren't bothered and I walked off fuming - to hear them say 'stupid cow'.

I also got punched in the back, really hard, walking along with my then DS5. I was winded, not sure where it came from - then saw a group of teens on bikes laughing at me. I was so angry, I yelled 'what the hell was that for?' and then they just cycled off laughing.

They lack empathy completely. This is the worst thing to lack in, and I think it does make them scum.

My teen wouldn't behave like this, and neither did I or DH. We weren't model teens either, but have never hurt someone deliberately, thrown something, or jumped out at small children.

If they are like this now, what adults will they become? You think thick as pig shit teens become model adults?

Sorry that your littles ones were the subject of an assault. Just because it's an egg, does that make it less of an assault? What if they threw a rock - does that make it worse?

It's not acceptable to have any end of the spectrum, hurting via throwing eggs, hurting via sexual assault, hurting/scaring dressing up as scary arse clowns, hitting someone....they all hurt others, they are all from people who lack empathy brains. All wrong.

TeacherBob I only object to the wording used. Because we don't know if they are scum or immature

Out of interest, how old do you think someone has to be (if typically developing) to understand others don't like having eggs thrown at them? Until I read this thread it hadn't occurred to that it could actually be dangerous (shell in eye etc.) but it's still purposely doing something unpleasant to another human being! Which is a scummy thing to do.

I think the strong language on this thread is a backlash against the fear and horror caused by people who clearly lack empathy. It's frightening because it's so unfathomable and unpredictable. That hits a nerve someone in our core make up as human beings - humans are supposed to have empathy. Its not about how physically injured (or otherwise) the OP is, it's the fact that someone purposely did something unpleasant without giving a shit about the person on the receiving end, because they thought it was funny.

Carrie If they are like this now, what adults will they become? You think thick as pig shit teens become model adults?

YY.

When I look back to my own schooldays, there were quite a few kids who seemed not the sharpest tools in the box, and messed around and did daft things. But only one or two who actually lacked empathy in this way - and not necessarily the kids who messed around either. There definitely seems to be a divide between "thoughtlessness" and "not giving a shit".

Yes, nail on the head, a lack of empathy. For some that goes hand in hand with immaturity and I would hope their empathy would develop as they get older. There are exceptions of course who will grow up with a cold discompassion for other human beings, and no regard for right or wrong. They are the sociopaths in our society and thankfully rare.

This is all theoretical though, if my child was a victim of a cruel prank, I might feel entirely differently.

Exactly, cocoabutter. Whatever else you call it, surely we can agree that it was mean.

Also, with regards to teens not thinking through consequences, fair enough but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be any. The natural consequence of acting like a smeghead means that people will think you are a smeghead. I wouldn't write teens off due to this behaviour, but I would like them to learn the above consequence.

They're scum. All that's wrong with Britain in 2016

If there is one thing that is painfully clear in my 40 yrs of life it is that some people ARE scum. You can fuck up a persons brain development in terms of empathy in all sorts of ways right from the onset and some things can't be fixed.

JustHereIGuess, extreme trauma and counselling? Don't be so patronising.

And why bother replying if you didn't think the thread warranted any replies?

There is an awful lot of human scum out there. The only consolation is that if the %$£! who threw it does that sort of thing often enough, sooner or later they will do it to someone who does not take it as calmly as your group did, and will hopefully experience a life-changing comeuppance.

Out of interest, how old do you think someone has to be (if typically developing) to understand others don't like having eggs thrown at them? Until I read this thread it hadn't occurred to that it could actually be dangerous (shell in eye etc.) but it's still purposely doing something unpleasant to another human being! Which is a scummy thing to do.

Probably about 2 years old.
People often do things that are unpleasant to others. That doesn't make them scum. It makes them unthoughtful, it might make them twats. But not neccessarily scum.

As an example, when I was growing up it was rather common to play postmans knock. Now that is going to be unpleasant to others. And is thoughtless and annoying. But I wouldn't call them scum.

Or how about swearing in public. To me that is just not on. And almost certainly unpleasant to others (making them listen to it IS doing it to them). Are they scum?

Or the aforementioned snowballs. Something that happens the world over. No real difference to throwing eggs. Both make a mess, both can injure. But would they be scum just for playing?

In this instance, there was no suggestion it was a repeated act. There was no suggestion that children were targetted. Because it seems that it wasn't even seen when thrown so how can you know? You can't.

No-one is saying it isn't mean, thoughtless and out of order.
But scum?

Taken from the urban dictionary:
It is hard to define the word, but it is basically used to describe someone so disgraceful that they are seen as the lowest form of life. "Worthlessness", "waste of skin", "dirt". "Nothing". Far worse than most other insults, where the victim is often just referred to as genetalia.

Someone throwing an egg is the lowest form of life? Really?

I bet every single one of us has at some point done something mean at some point to someone. We shouldn't be so quick to judge.

I got egged in the summer waking home from work. I actually had a concussion from it. It was a drive by egging so it wasn't even as if the perpetrators got to appreciate their handiwork. Seriously bizarre.

Your poor children. Hope they managed to get some enjoyment from the night despite those horrible people.

It's not just unpleasant, it's assault. When you launch a missile at someone - an egg, a hard snowball, a stone or rock - it's assaulting someone. Scumbags assault people.

YDNBU

Think yourself luck however that they didn't throw worse - Jogger set on fire by firework thrown from passing car

Luckily the jogger had friends who put the fire out quickly but I dread to think what would have happened if he had been on his own or if a child had been hit.

a hard snowball

You are differentiating between snowballs now?

Do you have any fun in your life?

Or the aforementioned snowballs. Something that happens the world over. No real difference to throwing eggs. Both make a mess, both can injure. But would they be scum just for playing?

My friend was hospitalised when we were in school after being it hit in the head with a tightly packed snowball. She suffered a fractured skull and swelling on the brain.

Yes, I'd class the perpetrators as the lowest form of life. They were lucky they didn't kill her.

ok then, mumsnet just took a step into the abyss

time for me to leave this thread,

have fun all!

There was a spate recently of kids throwing eggs at all the houses on my street. All of my neighbours bar one are elderly 70's and 80's. egg is hard to get off the window pillars. This went on for weeks. Then one night I had had enough. I grabbed half a dozen eggs from the kitchen, jumped int he car with my other half and tracked down the culprits. And I egged them right back. Not so cocky when it was them covered in egg. And it never happened again.

Hope your hand is less painful today. And as you said, thankfully you were the one who took the brunt of it rather than the little fellow's face.
I remember a court case some years ago here where a lady had lost the sight in her eye after being hit by an egg thrown by some scumbag from a passing car.

Horrible and dangerous thing to do.

Bowie's had some stick on this thread for the egging politicians thing but John Major (who was once my MP) got plenty of smug satisfaction from sending nasty little replies to his constituents letters when it suited him so I had to smile when I saw karma's paid him a visit

Not that I ordinarily agree with egging someone or a property, saddo Justin Bieber does it ffs. And when Tom Cruise got pissed off by having water squirted at him that must have been the only time ever agreed with him on anything

Trollhunting gets deleted.

HTH.

Someone on TV was saying they were in a shop when a guy came in shouting "Eggs! Egs! I must have eggs!" grabbed a box and ran out.

He came back in a few moments later, apologised for his rudeness and paid for the eggs. Apparently he had seen Boris Johnson about to get out of a car, and didn't want to miss his chance.

(I googled it - it really happened)

But the random, unprovoked attacks like the OPs are horrible - shocking, and often painful and dangerous.

'crystalballbroke I am not being patronising I just think this whole story has been fabricated.

Funny how my comment about still being able to type a rather long opening paragraph whilst your hand supposedly was/is severely bruised and swollen, got delete.

Care to take a picture of your hand? If so I'll gladly apologise.'

You are still trollhunting! That is against Talk Guidelines. Your post was deleted for trollhunting. If you believe an OP is not genuine, you report your concerns to HQ, not demand photos to justify your posts on the thread. It's not a court and you are not a judge. The 'report' function to the right of your username, yeah, you use that.

'ok then, mumsnet just took a step into the abyss'

Yeah, because injuring or killing someone when you were 'just having a laugh' is fine. Thankfully the law doesn't agree with you. You are lucky you don't have a criminal record.

People who do anything like this 'for a laugh' are scumbags, cunts, twats, you name it because it's a shit, humiliating, potentially injurious thing to do.

People are twats at times.

Egging seems to be enjoying a resurgence in popularity round here. Often see people on the local town FB group saying people driving past in cars have thrown eggs at them.

Many years ago in Paris youths threw eggs off the bridges into the big open tourist boats and got a load of people on the boat I was on.