Aibu to think some people are utter scum

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I'm so angry.

Had an evening out to watch a free council run firework display at a local heritage park.

We arrived early but the place was already heaving, so we bought some burgers/hot dogs to kill some time and as we were all hungry.

Standing with dh and the 3 dc and all of a sudden something made us all jump, and I felt something hit my hand hard.

Youngest ds6's face is covered in egg yolk. Whoever lobbed it had run as they'd thrown it. Luckily it didn't break in his face as it hit my hand first, but he took the fall out.

Why would someone do this? Luckily ds is placid and didn't care once he'd been cleaned up (as best we could) but my middle ds was in tears, my eldest fuming wanting to hunt them down. Egg covered coats/clothes and my hand (despite me wearing gloves) is swollen and bruised as got me on the knuckle.

Complete scum bag, I hope they get their comeuppance.

Why did the police not get involved when you caused criminal damage to a stranger's property whilst aiming to "just" injure your friend?

Firstly, I was lucky. They could have been. But such is life. Had they got involved now, not much would have come of it, as it was an accident.

And I wasn't trying to 'injure my friend'
We were just lobbing stones at each other having a laugh, both of us were doing it. We weren't trying to hurt each other, we were just messing about.
Now I can see possible consequences but at 14, we were just having fun.

Doesn't mean I am scum

We have been having issues near us with this recently. Dints in cars and people hit

Tbf teacher, you were behaving in a pretty scummy way.

Not saying you are now.

But it was still a scummy thing to do.

I was waiting to cross a road once, having had a nice night out with friends, and a car full of laughing, jeering men slowed down enough for one of them to lob a full McDonald's drink cup at me. People are arseholes.

Oh come on Bob. My girl is 13 with learning difficulties and knows fully well that throwing an egg or firework or stone at someone or their car or such will hurt or upset them.

That they don't know is bullshit.

The kids near us who have been doing this have been carted off to the police numerous times, caused 1000s of pounds worth of damage to cars and caused a crash.

Tbf teacher, you were behaving in a pretty scummy way.

Not saying you are now.

But it was still a scummy thing to do.

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It was immature yes. Looking back at it now was it out of order? Probably. But at no point did I think of the consequences.

That doesn't make me scum.

It makes me a twat, yes. But scum is a very hard word to use for someone who is immature.
If a grown up throws eggs, then yes, absolutely that is scum. Because they do know the consequences.
But teenagers often don't know the consequences or they do know them but act in the moment.
I don't think we should write them off because of it. For all you know, they would be horrified if they realised they had hurt someone (as I was when I realised what had happened with the car)

Oh come on Bob. My girl is 13 with learning difficulties and knows fully well that throwing an egg or firework or stone at someone or their car or such will hurt or upset them.

The OP is a grown up. They stated they didnt know an egg could do so much damage. An actual grown up, with children.

I dont think it is beyond fantasy to assume that kids wouldnt know.
I certainly didnt realise an egg could cause serious physical harm and I am an educated guy pushing 40.

there was a lad at my old secondary school who'd buy eggs from the nearby shop ant lunch time then when the kids at the end of the day were waiting at the bus stop he'd pelt them. I was lucky to not get hit but as a year 11 I looked out for the year 7's on my bus (10/11 of them) and one of them got a direct hit and shell embedded in their eye. cue ambulance, trip with yr 7 to hosp. giving statements to teachers, Dr's and eventually police. the one who threw the egg was kicked out of school and had a juvi trial (parent of kid who was hit was a copper). the shop had to out eggs behind he counter and would only sell them to adults. It enrages me that kids/people think its fairly harmless to throw eggs, that little kid nearly lost their sight.

I'm glad your kids were ok OP. and lets just hope those little shits get a comeuppance!

The kids near us who have been doing this have been carted off to the police numerous times, caused 1000s of pounds worth of damage to cars and caused a crash.

That is a completely different scenario to the OP and as such can't be used in comparison.
We have no info about whether this is something that is repeated and escalated, or just kids having a laugh in the moment

Bob they might not know HOW MUCH it would hurt but they will know it will upset and distress the person they are throwing it at or why would they do it for a laugh.

The kids near us are still doing it AFTER they caused a crash.

I guess I just don't understand the mentality where humiliating someone = "having a laugh", but then I never have, even when I was a teenager myself.

ItShouldHaveBeenJess

That's ok - & actually v sweet of you to apologise as no need for anyone to reply to my little burble & you were probably writing as I posted!

It is pretty awful really, isn't it? What's even worse is that if I hadn't had such a visible injury they were planning not to [let me] tell my father I'd suffered a head injury at all.

The staff were pretty hopeless with me full stop really. I'd not expect them to have any specialist knowledge of how to help me or anything, but to just show some sensitivity. So things like not telling me to cheer up, it might never happen (they did at least look embarrassed when I finally said my mother's dead, it already has) or just letting me withdraw from the group rather than telling me I was too old to be missing your m... to be homesick, or physically dragging me into things...

Bob they might not know HOW MUCH it would hurt but they will know it will upset and distress the person they are throwing it at or why would they do it for a laugh.

No, they probably dont actually. They probably havent even considered it would upset someone.
They might realise it is annoying, much in the same way as they may see playing 'knock postman' is annoying. But that has just as much impact as egg throwing, maybe even more because it is more personal and targetted'

I should point out again I am not condoning the behaviour and have said it is twat-ish behaviour.
I am just making a distinction between being a twat and being scum.

The kids near us are still doing it AFTER they caused a crash.

How does that relate to the OP?

Zebra what a horrible thing to have gone through, while grieving too.

Yep utter scum

People were throwing eggs at walkers during 2013 moonwalk charity marathon near the tower of London. I was slightly tired as it was on the final stretch and couldn't understand why there were eggs everywhere.

People defy evolution sometimes

I was replying to comments saying they probably didn't realise what they had done would hurt or upset Bob.

I am sorry it is bull.

The op said she didn't realise it ould hurt as much as it did. The thrower might not have but they still threw an object at someone to get a kick from it. (if they weren't throwing it at a mate and missed)

There are at least three or four groups of kids age 9 to teen who cause crap doing this every single holiday and most weekends in my small town. It is the same groups time and time again.

A teen walking behind me the other day saw me go in the house, waited until I shut the door then punched the glass.

They know what they are doing and we need to stop making excuses for them because that is exactly what the problem is these days.

All the do gooders stepping in saying "oh dear the poor little darlings didn't mean to do it"

TeacherBob

"How does that relate to the OP?"

It relates in the same way as you throwing rocks at your friend and missing.

But you are still using your experiences in a different scenario

No it doesnt bony

Because i am using that as a way of showing that sometimes we do things without thinking of the consequences, which doesnt make someone scum.

whereas light is saying it is ALWAYS the same children and they are scum.

light doesnt know that anymore than the OP does so cant make that judgement

Also, I have repeatedly said I dont condone the behaviour. I am agreeing with you guys.

I am just disagreeing with the language used.

I cannot see anywhere in my posts where I have said the children are scum or called them names at all.

I have simply said that from my experiences if they intended to throw the egg at the ops children not their mate they do know what they are doing and we need to stop making excuses for them.

Actually JustHereIGuess I think Scum, cunts, arseholes, shitehawks etc is more fitting than idiot.
Being if low intelligence doest make you throw eggs at people, being a cunt makes you throw eggs at people.

Agreed. If your precious snowflake is ot throwing eggs at people, then they are a scum bag. And a product of scum bag parents.

When I said it never occurred to me how much a thrown egg could hurt, it's true. I've only ever cooked with eggs.

Not once have I thought it'll be ok to throw anything at anyone maliciously.

My eldest ds is a teen, and he didn't think it was funny, harmless or acceptable.

I think the word scum is perfectly fitting. It is immoral behaviour. And what if the egg had hit my ds in the face, and caused an injury, or if he had an egg allergy? as someone else on this thread has dc with.

It's scummy behaviour and premeditated. The intention was there to buy/take eggs in order to throw at people, to damn with the consequences/potential injury it could cause.

They lost the right to not be called scum by me at the point of the idea to throw eggs.

So iabu in some people's opinions, and I accept that.

I'm horrified to read so many stories of similar nature, that did have a serious outcome.

TeacherBob

but you are using a different scenario, to prove your PoV.

You didn't think about the consequences of throwing a stone at a car window because you weren't throwing a stone at a car window.

Light is showing that in her experience it is the same kids and even thought they have been carted off by the police/caused accidents they still do it.

Both experience are valid as each other when related to the OP.

'Only on Mumsnet could teens arsing about, albeit irritatingly be described as "worse than scum". FFS. There are quite a few things worse than having an egg chucked at you.'

People who use Mumsnet also exist in real life. Imagine that? And doing something that can hurt, humiliate, injure someone or worse 'for a laugh' are fucking cunts.