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to think that not wearing a poppy counting as a uniform disciplinary issue is wrong?

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Bogeyface · 04/11/2016 23:18

DD's school have said this, and yes I have checked with the school.

Dont get me wrong, no issue personally with poppies. However I dont think that the school can insist on pupils wearing a poppy to the point that they can be put into isolation for not wearing one, can they?

A poppy is an act of remembrance and if a person has no reason to wear one, or prefers not to, then how is that any of the schools business? I dont wear one, but I buy 2 crosses every year for my grandfathers graves who both fought and suffered horribly during WWII. I remember, I just dont wear a poppy.

DD has chosen to wear one, but says that most of her peers wear them because they have to, not because they care. There have been no assemblies or lessons about why poppies are worn and what the represent so she thinks that in the main this rule is pointless.

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NeedsAsockamnesty · 04/11/2016 23:20

I think that's quite offish but in reality how many employees wear them because it is expect rather than because they desire to

Dinosaursgoboo · 04/11/2016 23:22

Bonkers. I don't wear one simply because they fall off constantly. I buy tgem, just can't keep them on.

PyjamaInducedApathy · 04/11/2016 23:22

I wear one but if someone said I had to or else, I'd be right pissed off. No way is that right

SignoraStronza · 04/11/2016 23:23
Be 'subversive' and buy her a white poppy, with some explanatory leaflets. I wear one of these aLongside the regular version.

Tarla · 04/11/2016 23:23

Totally pointless rule, YANBU.

Every year I buy at least half a dozen poppies but I'm rarely actually wearing one because one my DC will knick it or youngest DC will pull it off and end up dropping it or I get drenched in the rain and it goes all soggy and so on.

Supporting the poppy appeal and an act of remembrance are not dependent on whether or not you wear a piece of coloured paper on your lapel.

PippaFawcett · 04/11/2016 23:24

I don't wear one and I would not like to be bullied into wearing one either. I would discuss it with the head.

RandomHouseRules · 04/11/2016 23:25

If true, this is terrible. No school should ever have such a rule. Where are you?

(And I say this as the sister of an ex serviceman and whose DS is tomorrow selling poppies as a volunteer).

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Bogeyface · 04/11/2016 23:25

The irony of forcing students, under threat of punishment, to wear a symbol of the fight against oppression seems to have passed the school board/head teacher by.

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Bogeyface · 04/11/2016 23:29

I rang the school today and spoke to one of the deputies, he said that if someone chose not to wear one because of their beliefs then that would be respected. It wasnt until I put the phone down that I realised that this was a non answer and I didnt ask what the beliefs were that would be accepted. But I will be ringing again on Monday.

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Bogeyface · 04/11/2016 23:30

Staffordshire Random

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HelenaDove · 04/11/2016 23:31

Dinisaur i have the same problem. And those tiny little pins will not go through a thick winter coat.

RebootYourEngine · 04/11/2016 23:31

I dont wear a poppy either, for the same reasons as above, the fall off etc.

When did wearing a poppy become compulsory? Especially on tv.

HelenaDove · 04/11/2016 23:32

Some people wear white poppies but ive never seen them on sale anywhere.

Trifleorbust · 04/11/2016 23:33

No, that is ridiculous and I would cheerfully complain. Schools have no more right to dictate to students on matters of conscience than governments have to adults. I am a teacher and I would count that as a resignation matter if the Head told me I had to wear one, so I certainly wouldn't be slinging students into isolation over it.

fakenamefornow · 04/11/2016 23:34

I really hate the way poppies have become almost compulsory, do people not see the irony. I don't wear one anymore.

griffinsss · 04/11/2016 23:36

My DDs are expected to wear poppies to school. They wear white poppies, as do I. I occasionally buy one of the enamel badges of a red poppy alongside it, but much prefer the message if the white poppy.

You can buy them online.

PippaFawcett · 04/11/2016 23:36

Poppy shaming is a thing now which is why I won't wear one - I will choose to wear what I please, I won't be shamed into it.

griffinsss · 04/11/2016 23:36

Profits go to peace pledge union

Bogeyface · 04/11/2016 23:36

If you dont wear a poppy then you dont care and are being disrespectful. Fact. Apparantly.
There have been articles in the papers, usually the S(k)un(k) and the Daily Fail, highlighting people on TV who havent worn them, suggesting the above.

What I want to know is whether there is a donation to the RBL for every fresh new poppy worn by each TV person.

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OlennasWimple · 04/11/2016 23:39

I agree, completely. I would always buy a poppy, but it should absolutely be a choice not compulsory.

I'm trying to think of a scenario where a school should be able to require it... Perhaps if a student was representing the school at an event?

Bogeyface · 04/11/2016 23:39

Would a white poppy person mind explaining it to me please?

I know that a few years ago there was a lot of negative press about white poppies, and I confess I dont really understand the meaning of them.

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Catinthecorner · 04/11/2016 23:39

You could do an information request of the BBC asking how much they paid for how many poppies?

Bogeyface · 04/11/2016 23:40

I'm trying to think of a scenario where a school should be able to require it... Perhaps if a student was representing the school at an event?

But even then I dont think it is appropriate.

I think that Trifle put it perfectly (thank you) that it is a matter of conscience and no one has the right to dictate about that.

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Trifleorbust · 04/11/2016 23:41

Poppies are (variously) remembrance symbols, anti-war symbols and symbols of support for the armed forces. No school has any business telling students they need to express their personal support for any one of those sentiments.

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