The Duke of York wants his daughters to be full time Royals?

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www.express.co.uk/news/royal/724136/prince-andrew-requests-princesses-beatrice-eugenie-kensington-prince-charles-queen-william

This is a Sunday Express link, not a Fail one.

So Andrew wants both of his daughters to have full time royal roles funded by the public & have larger apartments at Kensington Palace. Given that the only time I ever see them in the news is for dreadful outfits & holidays, to me they are embarrassing & a bit cringy.

Andrew is complaining that they are overshadowed by William, Catherine & Harry. But if you believe & support a system of privilege by birth such as the monarchy, then it stands to reason that the direct heirs are more important than the rest.

Does Andrew have a point & IABU?!

Totally agree icanteven. I'm sick to death of hearing from Sarah about what a wonderful mother she is, how close she is to them... they have had to relive scandal after scandal in the name of their parents and they are totally not equipped at doing any proper job. Some mothering...

Dangleballs we wouldn't need palaces if we had a president, they aren't a necessity anyway. We mustn't think about how America does things. I prefer to think of Ireland. They get by fine with a president, two and a half times cheaper than what we pay out for the royal family too.

Whatever those two girls do they will be criticised

No.

If they worked proper full time hours, stopped spending half the year on holiday, paid their own rent and stopped living off handouts from family i wouldn't criticise.

And they are not girls.

Beatrice is nearly 30 ffs.

Thanks for the link Roussette, I can't remember that performance at alI. I must have been deliriously ill or out of the solar system country at the time.
Thanks too Puzzled, I'd forgotten about the name change.

I still say that there is little chance Charles will be handing out from the grant to Andrew & Co when he is King. Andrew should have been saving and investing wisely all these years.

Thing is about B & E - the girls do have jobs, and as far as I know they are well-educated? They just need to get used to relying on that and only that, instead of anything the Queen might give them. How they get away with being 'employed' but still manage all those holidays each year...
I would be fired 😳 but then again I don't have the Royal connections to save me

And yes, I still call them girls.

He and his daughters are spongers and he should, as others have said, remember his place - and theirs - in the pecking order.

Just the sight of any of the four of them irritates me beyond belief. I can't get past the who do they think they are bit. And I'm sure there's more to Andrew than we have ever been told.

26 and 28.....girls.

"what is so wrong with a president. It's only because we've never had one. I'm sure if we'd always had a president and we were asked if we wanted one family instead, who we were going to give massive wealth, umpteen palaces and huge privilege to there would be a unaminous NO. It's ridiculous."

I think the experience of putting it to a referendum in Australia (where let's face it, they definitely get lots of tourism but absolutely none of it due to having a reigning monarch) suggests not.

I think youngest one has a job in an art gallery, but Beatrice is not working. She's the one who did something like 18 holidays in 6 months or summat...

There is an element of me feeling a bit sorry for them TBH, I bet in RL they really are quite nice, it's their parents that get my goat

The President Blair arguement always annoys me. It's lazy and designed to appeal to the uneducated.

In a democracy you get to vote in.....and out. I know! Shocking. So if we ended up with a President we then grew to hate we could easily get rid of them in only a few short years. Rather than being stick with them for the rest of their natural lives.

The whole idea of them is ridiculous. Even my 8 year old thinks it's weird we would give money to people already living in a palace.

I'm sure they would get privalliged very well paid jobs just by who they are related to so theres no real need for them to live of the tax payer. It should be those in line to the throne only in my opinion. Lil Charlotte needs to start earning her keep

Ugh, I have resigned myself in recent years to the fact that I can't help but adore the royal family. However Andrew and his lazy brood can do one. He comes across so entitled and pompous and his daughters are annoying attention seekers.

Compared to the lovely William & Harry, Sophie, Edward, Zara etc they really are in the 'uncle nobhead' corner of the family. I have no desire to find their lazy lifestyle

Considering what they've had to put up with from their parents, they have done well! I don't think there is any desire from the public to see them as full time working royals though, and I'm not sure why Andrew can't see that - he kicked up a fuss when they lost their protection officers as well I think.

I read an article within the last few months where one of the Princesses approached William to ask for more of a role and that was politely rebuffed too.

I wouldn't like to be a royal - running the gauntlet every time you appear in public while everyone picks holes in your outfit/makeup/size - so I'm amazed anyone wants to sign up. You are wrong if you want to be a full-time royal but if you try and make money by another route you are accused of trading off royal connections (and the Middletons absolutely cannot win on this one either). It's a tough balance.

Ah yes Pootlebug and neither do their taxpayers have to support them.

Well tbf you could just stand down.

My understanding is that they are to some extent, at the beck and call of the Queen, though. For instance, that they couldn't marry without royal consent until Charlotte was born (pushing them down the line). It seems like they are all essentially kept waiting to be told what to do, what to turn up to. It would take a LOT of strength of character (and training from your parents) to say NO, ACTUALLY, I CANNOT BE AVAILABLE FOR X ROYAL EVENT ON THE 24th, I HAVE A JOB AND CAN'T GET THE TIME OFF.

Even Zara T is essentially self-employed, and can work around "royal hours".

We don't know what goes on behind closed doors, and we don't know what the consequences would be for Beatrice or Eugenie if one of them had a high-earning, mainstream, restrictive job at, say, BCG, and simply said no. We know already that the Queen even dictates the length of Kate's hemlines, so I think that when granny is the reigning monarch things are a bit different when it comes to sending out CV's.

Hauser & Wirth is a very cool place to get a job, and they don't need the cache of a royal employee to be one of England's more impressive galleries. I don't imagine she earns very much (she was only on 25k or something in her last job), but at least Eugenie is doing something, unlike Beatrice.

I'm American, so I have no opinion, other than they both kind of have crazy eyes.

One of them has her mum's jaw and teeth, who in turn had her dad's jaw and teeth. Unfortunate

steff13 as an American, do you think that the royal family are an attraction to some Americans when choosing to visit the UK?

QueenLiz, yes indeed to some they may always be girls.
Like them or not I've grown up with them in a way; like my twenty-something female relatives who are also girls. But they aren't really.

I think B & E have been called a lot worse.
Whatever they are to you is fine of course...for you

Yes they are at the Queens beck and call, good example is Christmas after their divorces, neither Diana nor Fergie were able to have Christmas with their children. Camilla has never had Christmas with her grandchildren.

Attendance at Christmas is less of an invite than a summons, those that don't attend as Kate aand William haven't I think twice have to ask for and be granted permission not to as opposed to just saying "Not this year Nan I'm going to the in laws"

They also act like girls not women. Women have careers or at least jobs, they raise families. These two don't seem to do much more than holiday. E less so but B appears to have no work ethic at all. As princesses you can easily get "jobs" where not much more is wanted from you than access to the people you know. B doesn't even have the sense to do that.

A lot of people don't work Christmas Day though, so that doesn't really stop them getting jobs.