The Duke of York wants his daughters to be full time Royals?

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www.express.co.uk/news/royal/724136/prince-andrew-requests-princesses-beatrice-eugenie-kensington-prince-charles-queen-william

This is a Sunday Express link, not a Fail one.

So Andrew wants both of his daughters to have full time royal roles funded by the public & have larger apartments at Kensington Palace. Given that the only time I ever see them in the news is for dreadful outfits & holidays, to me they are embarrassing & a bit cringy.

Andrew is complaining that they are overshadowed by William, Catherine & Harry. But if you believe & support a system of privilege by birth such as the monarchy, then it stands to reason that the direct heirs are more important than the rest.

Does Andrew have a point & IABU?!

Blimey. He should be grateful they're as privileged, educated and healthy as they are. The more in the public eye they are, the more abuse and criticism they get. Beatrice is not an unattractive woman but the things I've read about her (on here too). If I were her father I'd want her to stay out of the public eye, not square up for more insults. So it's a strange thing to want for them.

And as a pp says, obviously that's how the monarchy works, the children of charles (and their children and love lives) overshadow the children of Anne, Andrew and Edward. That is no surprise to him surely !!

Any meeja piece that starts off with 'Taxpayers! Taxpayers!' needs to be read with a large pinch of salt

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/06/24/royal-family-revenue-cost_n_7651702.html

The revenue paid to the UK from the Crown Estate is at a record £285 million. So, take away the Queen’s £35.7 million, and the UK is left with £249 million. So, because of the royal family, your taxes are actually about £3.80 cheaper per year than they would be if the Queen did not rule.

Of course The Republicans dispute it, but the Huff's figures don't include the tourist dollar, also disputed, the charitable works, social enterprises/trusts etc.

But, regardless, these two have far more than most of us will ever see and they are already supported by the Sovereign Grant. What else is he asking for except a higher profile - basically he is asking that they become more famous! FFS!

The recent I have a job interview by Eugenie was so out of touch.

She had no household chores. No bills. No rent. She walked into work on the dot and left on the dot. Frequently allowed out early.

The woman has no idea.

diddl I don't think Edward's daughter was given the title of "Princess" though, she's known as "Lady Louise Windsor" whereas Eugenie and Beatrice were given the titles at birth.

Charles is keen to streamline the Royal Family and isn't close to Andrew so there is no way Bea and Eug will be given official roles. He knows that the Yorks are not popular with the public. A friend's daughter was at an event which Bea attended and said she had a very superior attitude .

"Charles is the heir and he wanted it streamlined - it's part of the reason Louise is a Lady not a Princess."

Louise is a Princess, isn't she?

In the way that Beatrice & Eugenie are-she's the daughter of a Prince.

I doubt that Charles had any say in the titke that Edward & Sophie took on their marriage, or what titke their kids are known by.

Is that telegraph article meant to make her sound like a normal woman? :o
I only ever buy tatler or Harper's for the free gifts and then read the articles like this I guess I'm an example of inverted snobbery too...

It's vulgar though really isn't it, when we have austerity measures against the most vulnerable in our society and she's being driven around by a chauffeur and wearing top end designer gear

Andrew is an over-entitled arrogant tool with very questionable contacts who has sucked every last ounce of taxpayer funded royal privilege dry for years.

Trying to persuade the public that his daughters should follow in his footsteps betrays the depths of his deluded self satisfaction.

No she isn't she's Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor NOT Princess Louise of Wessex she's not a HRH

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Louise_Windsor

Don't you need the permission of the ruling Monarch for a title, hence why William was made up into Duke of a Cambridge as a wedding present. Catherine would have had to be known as Princess William otherwise.

Well, Prince Andrew is the 'spare' so it's understandable that his offspring are not deemed as important as Charles' and surely it's better to cut down on the number of minor royals we have/need.

They have no idea of what ordinary life is like for we plebs. They should do something useful and earn their own keep. I'm not a republican but ...

My understanding was though that she is entitled to the title "Princess", although not referred to as that, in the same way that Camilla is entitled to be called the Princess of Wales.

Princess Of Wales is Camilla's title but it's completely unused. Louise has never held Princess title, as it was declared that Edwards children wouldn't before they were born.

I can see an AIBU here:

We've got a family business that it's traditional for the oldest son to take over. I'm second son and I've tried to work hard, but am always overshadowed by my big brother. I'd have loved to think that I could take over, but I did my bit.
Now my big brother had had grandchildren and they're already talking about when his grandson takes over.
My dd1&2 (who are about the same age as his sons) have been pushed aside all their life for his children and now are pushed aside for the grandchild. He's only just at school so can't do anything for a decade!
AIBU to ask that my children also get a job in the firm.

He wants them to be the same as he is - official state spongers. He does very little for his civil list cash.

Let the lazy cows get a job, or marry some Hooray Henrys who will keep them in Pimms and appalling hats

^They do have jobs though!
One in "business" and one in art.^

It must have taken years of hard slog and working their way up to land jobs like that.
Oh no wait. that's in the real world.

In Royal Land Daddy pulls some strings and calls in some favors. Bingo, you've got a job.

Fucking leeches the lot of them.

They aren't exactly popular. If they were paid on that basis they'd be at the food bank.

Good grief. Andrew needs more money and status to keep him (and his daughters) in the life to which he believe he is entitled?

Witchend

The revenue paid to the UK from the Crown Estate is at a record £285 million. So, take away the Queen’s £35.7 million, and the UK is left with £249 million. So, because of the royal family, your taxes are actually about £3.80 cheaper per year than they would be if the Queen did not rule.

The thing is, if the royal family ceased to be the WHOLE of the profits would be ours. So we would be massively better off. I also don't believe that tourists come to the UK because of the royal family. The French got rid of theirs, more tourists go there than anywhere in the world. They are a drain on us.

The only Royal I've ever really liked is Princess Di. She was truly brilliant and gave so much of her time to causes the rest of the royal family weren't interested in.

Are you, if I may coin a phrase, on glue?

She was the most narcissistic self-publicising whinger - he only cause she was interested in was herself!

We do not need Andrew's daughters as full time Royals. Of COURSE they are going to be upstaged by William, Kate and Harry who are much further up the pecking order, and when/if Harry marries his wife and any future kids will outrank them too.

They need to get out there and work - lots of people criticise William for doing little but he's working as a pilot and has worked in search and rescue previously. Beatrice and Eugenie's work experience seems to total an internship at Sony and gadding around an art gallery when they're not skiing or holidaying.

Andrew really must be very unaware of how the public perceive him - he is not a popular royal, has not done any proper work since he left the Navy whenever that was and just pissed people off when he was "trade ambassador" or whatever. He needs to live quietly, shut up and fund his own children.

Andrew needs to hush. If Beatrice and Eugenie want to have more prominent roles in the Firm they're old enough to ask granny themselves. God knows why they'd want to though, it's not like they're hard up for money so why would they want all the duty and dullness and ribbon-cutting? Sounds ghastly. When I marry Prince Harry I'm staying out of the public eye

She was truly brilliant and gave so much of her time to causes the rest of the royal family weren't interested in.

She didn't do more than any of the others, she just called the press whenever she did and turned her charity work into a fashion show.