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'supported living for challenging youngsters' being built next door.

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getyourselfchecked · 18/10/2016 11:01

NC for this as could be outing. This is more of a WWYD really. I am at risk of sounding like a right NIMBY and I hate that its bringing this out in me but...
I am a single parent about to move to a new house. Building work has started on a 'supported living for challenging youngsters' development right next door.
Now, I have lived in some of the most gang-riven areas in the country without a thought but in my old age and with a child I admit I am worried about crime, drugs and ability to sell house on. I love the house and everything else is good.
WWYD? Still proceed with the purchase?

This is a genuine post, I don't have many people to discuss this with and I have never worried about house values etc in my life! I am genuinely surprised at my reaction to this.

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OurBlanche · 19/10/2016 15:32

Psst aren't

[As you were, I'm not really here Smile ]

DixieNormas · 19/10/2016 15:33

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QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 15:37

What's wrong with not wanting to live next door to a group of teens???? I like quiet so loud noise and music is deeply disturbing for me.

NavyandWhite · 19/10/2016 15:38

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MyPeriodFeatures · 19/10/2016 15:44

As a person who is committed to social justice and believe that young people and those with needs are stigmatised enough this post is deeply saddening.

However. Do Not Buy. Run to the hills.

MyPeriodFeatures · 19/10/2016 15:47

It's the bloody multitude of staff and the cars in an out all the time that would bother me most.

Owllady · 19/10/2016 15:53

Minimising and distracting doesn't actually answer the question though.

Mnhq are running a guest post on the plight of vulnerable young homeless people whilst letting this thread full of negative stereotypes and prejudice about the very issue stand. Is it to do with revenue?

I'm interested about the direct comparison and conflict between two

NavyandWhite · 19/10/2016 15:57

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Owllady · 19/10/2016 16:01

That doesn't answer the question either

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 16:06

You're conflating two different things, Owlady.

One issue is whether the OP is in a financial position to lose a lot of money on a purchase. Which she clearly is not, and may be be about to if she doesn't thoroughly investigate what she's buying.

The second issue is whether homeless teenagers are entitled to support and should be supported by the community. Where the answer is clearly yes. I doubt many people on this thread think otherwise.

Negative sterotypes about the potential behaviour of a bunch of teenagers living together are unlikely to be unfounded. Have you walked past a sudent house recently? There's a student accommodation facility near my office. The noise on a Friday night (not to mention the frequent pools of vomit I have to step over in the morning) has to be heard to be believed. It's not likely that a house next door to teenage accommodation will be as universally attractive to all buyers as a house next door to just another house.

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Andrewofgg · 19/10/2016 16:18

Many houses have restrictive covenants against any use except as a single family home. Planners loathe that but I would never t want to buy unless the house I was looking at and all the others in the road had one.

Owllady · 19/10/2016 16:45

Queenjuggler, I have teenage children I don't need to go out on a Friday night to encounter them!

I'm asking specifically regarding MNHQ stance on having guest posts that are conflicted by current posts and attitudes in AIBU.

OurBlanche · 19/10/2016 16:49

Well, ask them, then!

All we can say is:

Oh, yes, what a coincidence.
Oh! Are we all supposed to share a singe viewpoint?
If so, what is that viewpoint? (I am sorry, but I have lost track of what it is that is being shouted about!)
What do you want to happen?

Saucery · 19/10/2016 16:51

I think that is always going to be problematic, as the Talk boards are full of such a diverse membership.
There has to be a line drawn but I'm not sure that should go above and beyond Talk Guidelines.

yesterdaysunshine · 19/10/2016 16:54

I suppose otherwise the problem is discussing anything is potentially difficult as literally anybody could have additional needs.

As such, the numerous 'AIBU to be upset a man barged past me' 'AIBU to think DSs teacher is out of order' 'AIBU to be cross with the way I was treated in the bank' would either have to stop altogether or be prefaced with an acknowledgement that they might have special needs and if so the below doesn't apply, blah blah, which would soon get tedious.

Butteredpars1ps · 19/10/2016 17:05

I don't think you have to agree with guest posts.

As it happens I do agree with today's one about making sure care leavers continue to have support and I've signed the petition. I still wouldn't choose to buy a house next door, because I like peace and quiet.

This doesn't make me inconsistent. Or disablist.

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 17:06

Yes, although I do take the upthread point on board about the probability of troubled teens having hidden disabilities or LDs being very likely. More likely that a random man barging into you having one, anyway.

FatMe · 19/10/2016 17:17

You are either compassionate and empathetic to the plight of vulnerable young homeless people or you aren't. You can't be both.

You can be empathetic to their plight and still not want to live next door to a houseful of them and/or lose a stack of cash buying a property next door.

ChathamDockyard · 19/10/2016 17:20

You are either compassionate and empathetic to the plight of vulnerable young homeless people or you aren't. You can't be both

You can be empathetic to their plight and still not want to live next door to a houseful of them and/or lose a stack of cash buying a property next door

EXACTLY! I bet this is exactly what the vast majority of posters think.

Revealall · 19/10/2016 17:22

Owllady. So if you are arguing you can't have it both ways why do parents with SN children ask for respite or use residential care,Is it because they don't feel compassion and love for their children or because as parents they work better for having a break or professional help.
You can work with young people, feel compassion and want to help whilst recognising living with the behaviour is too challenging to live next door to.
No one is saying don't build the home are they?

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 17:29

Chatham - I could be empathetic, but not in a position to donate £50k to helping them. For the OP to ignore the financial consequences of the purchase is the equivalent to her of giving £50k away when she can ill afford it (i'm making up the numbers to illustrate the point).

Of course, all of this arguing is covering up the real issue. The reason many people are fearful of such a residence is because they don't trust the authorities to a) properly fund them, meaning there might not be enough staff to provide the support needed, resulting in disruptive behaviour and b) provide the support beyond housing that will enable these residences to be something other than a dumping ground, and turn them into places where people can rebuild damaged lives.

If people could trust the authorities to properly fund, properly support, and properly maintain such places, then the fear might disappear. Sadly, none of us believe that this is ever going to happen.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 19/10/2016 17:30

whilst letting this thread full of negative stereotypes and prejudice

I am so sorry it lands that way. But I think you are being somewhat disingenuous here. Many people who have extensive experience in this sector, who have children with some the issues have consistently said its not wrong to be wary of living next door to a building that has a high likelihood of noise, chaotic behaviour and substance abuse.

MN has taught me a lot on this topic- I really mean that

LynetteScavo · 19/10/2016 17:33

I wouldn't have a problem with living there, but I wouldn't buy the house as I think it would be more difficult to sell.

Unless the house price was really good. I actually feel sorry for who ever currently owns the house and will probably now load out financially because of cunty posts like mine.

Cumberland · 19/10/2016 18:21

Why buy a house with a potential downside? I wouldn't buy next to an HMO of any description no matter who the occupants were, because of noise, comings and goings and potential disruption to my quiet enjoyment of my home. Walk away OP.

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