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'supported living for challenging youngsters' being built next door.

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getyourselfchecked · 18/10/2016 11:01

NC for this as could be outing. This is more of a WWYD really. I am at risk of sounding like a right NIMBY and I hate that its bringing this out in me but...
I am a single parent about to move to a new house. Building work has started on a 'supported living for challenging youngsters' development right next door.
Now, I have lived in some of the most gang-riven areas in the country without a thought but in my old age and with a child I admit I am worried about crime, drugs and ability to sell house on. I love the house and everything else is good.
WWYD? Still proceed with the purchase?

This is a genuine post, I don't have many people to discuss this with and I have never worried about house values etc in my life! I am genuinely surprised at my reaction to this.

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PersianCatLady · 19/10/2016 19:50

You can be empathetic to their plight and still not want to live next door to a houseful of them and/or lose a stack of cash buying a property next door
Exactly this and we don't know if the OP or her kids have any special needs or disabilities that would make living next door to a homeless hostel more difficult than it would for other people.

Why should the OP's family not be as important as the plight of these homeless young people.

FlouncingIntoAutumn · 19/10/2016 19:54

Young people needing supported accomodation isn't the factor that causes the drop in house prices. It's societies attitude that its someone else's problem without acknowledging that as society we can alleviate many of the problems that are being raised as concerns.

I linked to the budget cut thread to vulnerable children guest post earlier and it still needs signatures so I'll link again

If we don't support even the limited facilities we currently have, the fears of day to day life many express in this thread will become a greater reality for more of us.

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 20:30

Flouncing - it's also the fact that these children are left hideously unsupported at a vulnerable stage in their lives. The fear is that such facilities just become convenient dumping grounds with little support. Underfunding for those in need (with or without disabilities) is at chronic levels. And I'm terrified it's just going to get worse.

I feel for the OP, but I also feel desperately sad for the youngsters who actually need this accommodation, and the support that should come with it.

Signed your petition - let's hope it has some impact.

FlouncingIntoAutumn · 19/10/2016 20:35

QueenJuggler Thank you and far more eloquently put than I ever phrase things. I had an email update a short while ago 94,000 signatures. I think it's only 6000 more to get the issue debated in parliament.

Owllady · 19/10/2016 20:44

Revealall…Owllady. So if you are arguing you can't have it both ways why do parents with SN children ask for respite or use residential care,Is it because they don't feel compassion and love for their children or because as parents they work better for having a break or professional help
Respite isn't just for carers it's patient/client centered

MuseumOfCurry · 19/10/2016 21:14

I'd support a homeless teen home in spades, in fact I'm hard-pressed to think of another charity I could find more worthy.

That said, it's tremendously unfair to criticise someone for not wanting to sink their entire net worth into a house that is absolutely, positively going to carry a discount for being situated next to a homeless teen home.

elodie2000 · 19/10/2016 21:26

So many people on this thread implying that they would be more than happy to live next door to groups of disadvantaged, homeless teenagers...

Sorry, I know you're trying to be P.C. but I just don't believe you.

Pagwatch · 19/10/2016 21:31

Elodie

I've been here 12 years, only altered my name once during the whole Jeffrey thing and lots of people know where I live. I live two doors away from a supported living home.
So the 'I don't believe you' thing just smacks to me of wanting to tar every one with your personal brush.

Three houses in the other direction is a rehab home. It's city centre living - a mixed bag.

SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:32

elodie like I said it worked for my parents neighbours in different street. Not saying there hasn't been problems but I certainly don't notice police cars or sirens. In a southeast London suburb too.

SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:36

I think when this house was planned there was outcry and uproar but the houses nearby had the choice to move or stay. They stayed. And it's been as far as I know moreorless ok. The people who work with the kids want to help them and cause as little disruption to the community as possible as far as i know this has been achieved! Oh it's opposite a small quiet housing estate block (council) any better for you lot like elodie

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SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:40

Of course a lot of bigoted posters would say that Navy but say a house next to yours becomes a house like this (for troubled teens) do you all move, protest en masse etc?

Worriedmum71 · 19/10/2016 21:41

Dd has Sen and lives in accommodation with other young people with the same condition. Now I love my dd but with some of her behaviour and some of the behaviour that goes on in the house where she is I wouldn't buy a house next door to that housing. That's with drugs and alcohol not allowed and it's still extremely loud till late at night.

SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:43

And I say again a consultant at a London hospital with a naice job, naice accent, he didn't move! Can't recall but an older couple (sahm/housewife) with 3 teenage sons (all grown up now) moved there after this home was Set up - do you really think they'd move there if it was highly disruptive?

NavyandWhite · 19/10/2016 21:43

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SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:46

Worried there's a house a few streets from my parents for older people with SEN (mental Heath?), one or two of the men did take to drink and chatted up girls (Can't blame them!) but after complaints it stopped. Flats are bought and sold in that road too but when I visit my parents that road too it just seems like another house no more noisy or quiet etc.

FlouncingIntoAutumn · 19/10/2016 21:46

I live by whats locally called a halfway house. Its a supported accomodation for homeless youngsters.

In my last house I openly supported an application, as one of the nearest neighbours, for extremely challenging youngsters with criminal convictions, the local community did listen and slowly came round - it was actually quite heartwarming. The project had previously had a purpose built residense built and had threats of harm made against those they were to house before they'd even housed them. The planning dispute came up on the searches when i sold the house a few years later. We did just fine out of the sale in comparisson to the market we didn't see a localised drop.

We have numerous unofficial supported houses by us (which is the way things are going) several high needs people, house share, in theory team of carers. These wouldn't come up in a search and could be coming to a house near you soon, or maybe already are.

SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:47

navy you do seem bigoted towards the type of people living in these homes, their staff, carers etc. It's a society problem. Very much a few here are nimby.

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SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:52

I've got better things to do navy but your whole attitude is against not work with them.

My DB for one had an ex who was in care, on coming out of the system she was put on a house like for some people out of care, very rough part of town and wisely my mum took her in at the time but not all people in care homes or homes of this sort are trouble.

EachandEveryone · 19/10/2016 21:53

Well a half way house has opened at the top of my sisters street simply because they have been shifted from their central location due to our city being the city of culture and now she can't go to the shops without being accosted for money the teenage nieces can't walk by without being followed. The council aren't interested. Of course you wouldn't knowingly buy down that street, why would you?

SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:53

Actually DB met her when she was staying with her sister so out of care but just.

SuperFlyHigh · 19/10/2016 21:54

Each if council don't listen then complain to the home itself.

NavyandWhite · 19/10/2016 21:56

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DanyellasDonkey · 19/10/2016 22:15

I can't believe this is still rumbling on, I gave up on it last night.

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