'supported living for challenging youngsters' being built next door.

[getyourselfchecked]

NC for this as could be outing. This is more of a WWYD really. I am at risk of sounding like a right NIMBY and I hate that its bringing this out in me but...
I am a single parent about to move to a new house. Building work has started on a 'supported living for challenging youngsters' development right next door.
Now, I have lived in some of the most gang-riven areas in the country without a thought but in my old age and with a child I admit I am worried about crime, drugs and ability to sell house on. I love the house and everything else is good.
WWYD? Still proceed with the purchase?

This is a genuine post, I don't have many people to discuss this with and I have never worried about house values etc in my life! I am genuinely surprised at my reaction to this.

The OP has already said its for young homeless people. It's not a residential home for disabled people. She has not used the words 'challenging behaviour'. She asked people for their thoughts and experiences and many people have said from their own experiences that they would advise her not to buy the property. Their experiences are valid. I myself spent time in a home for homeless young people which involved drug taking and anti social behaviour and would advise her not to buy. But people continue to diagnose those young people as having all manners of disabilities.

This is not about disability. It's about whether it's worth the risk of buying a property next to a home with the potential for challenging anti social behaviour that would impact on her families wellbeing and future ability to resell her home. That she used the word 'challenging' has sadly been misconstrued by those accusing her and others of being disablist.

I also used to visit a relative who'd been released from prison and put in a halfway house for newly released prisoners. I got to meet some of his housemates (who lived in bed sits within the house). Some of them were convicted of fraud and one of them was a convicted murder. They were all very nice to me!

But I wouldn't buy a house next to them.

Oops. I can see thread has moved on now. Anyway, peace and love to you all!

Umbongo, it must have been someone with a very similar scenario to you then, sorry. As I said, I don't use mumsnet that often
I wonder why

Thank you Rebecca for a very clear, thoughtful post

What scenario? You don't have to be cryptic.

Yes, I am heartened to know goo that this thread is fine because it just regards HOMELESS YOUNG PEOPLE
It is just what I'd expect from a parenting board highly featured in the media

A sibling with a sibling with severe autism umbongo

God forbid that any of those HOMELESS YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE SOME OF THEM NOT EVEN ADULTS YET be HOMELESS because they have SN because of course THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. IF THE THREAD WAS ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE who were homeless due to SN. THAT WOULD BE DISABLIST.

Oh. Wait.

Owl lady - would you move next door to a halfway house for released prisoners then? I assume that given some of them over the years would have some degree of SEN, the possibility of anti social behaviour wouldn't concern you at all?

I have done yes but I can't really be bothered anymore. You aren't worth it tbh

Fucking hell, HQ, how can you be so blind?! Unbelievable. All the arse kisses "ooh, thanks HQ". Seriously?
Original op was absolutely fair enough. The issue is with some subsequent posts.
Remember, you,me, your kids could become disabled any time. Consider how you'd like the world to look to you in that situation.

Well as one disabled mum of a disabled child to another, i wish you goodnight Owl. Peace and love. I know we each have our own shit to deal with, so let's just move on

The hostels for homeless teens I worked in were very lively. Many were there due to family breakdown. They had been made homeless by family. Often drugs, violence and anti social behaviour were involved. Totally different to supported accommodation for young people with SEN, which is usually a totally different kettle of fish.

Surely now that we all know that this is going to be a home for homeless young people NOT disabled children perhaps we can get back to the original question of what should the OP do?

Interestingly a high percentage of prisoners are dyslexic

Can people genuinely not see the massive fucking overlap between the 'challenging youngsters' group and the disabled group?! Really?

No Smart. Apparently not.

I think it's perfectly fine for ops home to be her sanctury. There are many things I'd hate to live next door to - football pitches, airports, pubs,

That was my point. A high degree of prisoners have some form of SEN. And I'm glad they have a home to go too, and I believe in reform of character, but would I chose to buy a property near to a halfway house? No I wouldn't. And I speak as a disabled woman with a child with SEN, and I was briefly homeless in my youth.

Auser, the wilful blindness to this is astonishing. I had no idea it was so bad, being fairly new to the wonderful world of having a kid with a disability, who could GOD FORBID, be living amongst The Normal Children and Families

Wait till you're nearly 30 years in. It gets very very very old by that stage.

I do not understand how you can't see it HQ. I really don't. You have loads of posters telling you it's there, do you think we are lying? Making it up? It's not just one person. It's loads.

No one here has been disabilist yet Disabilist attitudes shine through, can you not see that? Yes, we totally can

Cultural change is whats needed and mumsnet can play a great part in encouraging the debate and allowing a platform for attitudes to evolve.

The emphatic 'no one has been disabilist' I question, when the thread has shown just how prejudiced we collectively are about one sentence of text in an OP.

That one sentence has been analysed to the point that it can be demonstrated that the majority of homeless youths also have some form of disability so we can extrapolate that collectively we have a judgemental/ prejudiced attitude.

Being judgemental is human we all make judgement calls all day every day but prejudice is something else.

The OP was right she needed more info.

We collectively used our prejudice to make judgements. Our collective prejudice is what needs addressing.

Auser, I can well imagine. I'm fucking knackered already...
MMHQ are managing to comment on threads right now, but only on important things for which they could come a cropper legally speaking. No need for them to trouble themselves with disabilist whimsy, eh??

smart genuine question.

Surely it's down to individual circumstance.
If you had young children, would you want to live next door to my brother? He's 25, he screams like he is being murdered daily, he's violent, he spits.
Because I would absolutely not thinks someone was disablist for not wanting to live next to him for 20+ years.