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To think the Ched Evans verdict shows why mob justice is wrong

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JonathanDunn · 14/10/2016 17:10

Hundreds of thousands of people were willing Condemn a innocent man. He was practically forced out of football. This is why we can't play jury from our sofas.

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gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 15/10/2016 08:55

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From what I've read, unconscious is wildly inaccurate. Where are you getting it from?

RubyRoseViolet · 15/10/2016 08:56

I know what he actually admitted to doing himself....that's vile enough regardless of what you call it! I was amazed he gained any public sympathy at all.

AnyFucker · 15/10/2016 08:57

People are still saying she "cried rape" ?

Lucky, you are not educated about this case so your comments are irrelevant.

Soubriquet · 15/10/2016 08:58

You want to see FB AF

It's not just she cried rape anymore

It's she's a dirty lying whore who was out to tarnish a good man's name and destroy his career. She deserves to rot in jail after being stoned first.

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 15/10/2016 08:58

I agree he is totally horrible and a pitiful role model. He hasn't really won though - loads of people still think he is guilty, more think he's rotten and he served time.

Soubriquet · 15/10/2016 08:59

hope this works have a look here

GetAHaircutCarl · 15/10/2016 08:59

He has been found not guilty.

Ched Evans will still however always be the man who snuck into a dark hotel room to have sex with a very drunk teenager, while his family member and mates watched.

That is the man he is.

AnyFucker · 15/10/2016 09:03

I am deliberately staying away from FB and Twitter.

intheknickersoftime · 15/10/2016 09:04

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37560871. Not wildly inaccurate

Soubriquet · 15/10/2016 09:09

Don't blame you AF

Wish I had but it came up on my time line and I stupidly had a look.

It's scary what people are saying

BeyondPolkadots · 15/10/2016 09:14

Lucky, yes, seriously.
Check out the definition of consent.

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 15/10/2016 09:21

Wildly inaccurate to claim it as fact.

luckylavender · 15/10/2016 09:27

Lucky, yes, seriously.
Check out the definition of consent.

Well as far as I'm concerned that's a fucking joke. I am so saddened that people can't see that HER actions have damaged future convictions as much as HIS. That's my point.

intheknickersoftime · 15/10/2016 09:30

Don't understand your post gone, I'm just trying to understand this. Im interested in all pov and not here for an argument. You said my post was wildly inaccurate and dispute what I posted from a law essay. I just know what I've read so please stop trying to undermine me.

BeyondPolkadots · 15/10/2016 09:31

^
And that is a fantastic example of why I never even got so far as a police station.

intheknickersoftime · 15/10/2016 09:33

Her actions have damaged future convictions?????? Are you serious??

PortiaCastis · 15/10/2016 09:36

I didn't go to the police either because I didn't want to dragged through the dirt. I had my torn knickers as evidence but by God I'm glad I didn't go. One rule for slaggy men and another for women.
How come the slimeballs previous conquests weren't asked to give their account??????????????

luckylavender · 15/10/2016 09:36

Perfectly serious

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 15/10/2016 09:37

in the knickers

Not trying to undermine you. You linked to a BBC news, not a law essay. In which there was no claim by the girl or anyone else that she was unconscious. She could have been. But not remembering things the following morning doesn't mean you were necessarily unconscious.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 15/10/2016 09:40

neither the jury's finding not any decisions of the trial judge establish any precedent. That is not the way precedent work. Decisions of the court of appeal do, which is why I am interested in why the c of a set the original conviction aside, a previous court having declined to do so.
I am minded to write to relevant government departments asking for a review on the law relating to admission of sexual history evidence. There may be a case for an outright bar; or for the prosecution to be able to call evidence about the defendants previous history where the claimants is admitted. I'll bet there's more than a few women who could have told the jury in this case about aggressive/entitled behaviour from the defendant.

PinkyOfPie · 15/10/2016 09:41

Please ignore luckylavender she is a serial apologist and misogynist who often posts her venom towards rape victims and their nerve to come forward

I urge people in sympathy of him to read this which explains why the verdict does NOT indicate innocence and does NOT indicate that she is a liar thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case

PortiaCastis · 15/10/2016 09:41

FFS that poor girl, leave her alone. If you've been raped it's not a point scoring Mn bun fight its someone's life.

MostlyHet · 15/10/2016 09:43

What do you actually think her actions were, Lavender? Because as far as I can see what she has done is gone to the police to report a stolen handbag, then testify under oath that she had no memory of the events of the night in question. The police rape case was build round his testimony that he got his taxi to turn round following a text from his mate, obtained a pass key to the hotel room by deception, let himself into a room where his friend was having sex, asked someone (more on that shortly) if he could join in, had sex with her, then ran off down the fire escape. He also (transcript of first trial) offered the police two conflicting statements - in one he said he'd asked his mate if he could join in and the mate said yes (thereby incriminating himself by basically describing non-consensual sex), in the other he said he asked the woman if he could join in and she said yes (consensual in his eyes). The discrepancy between the two statements was why the police and CPS brought the case in the first instance, based on his testimony, not hers.

No-one disputes those facts - they are all in the court transcripts and in his application to appeal. Tell me where in that she "cried rape"?

(BTW, I would be very interested to hear from lawyers on here whether Evans' fiancee, on the basis of her facebook offers to one of the witnesses, could be charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice.)

Boundaries · 15/10/2016 09:44

Ched Evans did not speak to her before, during, or after sex.

How on earth did he think he had consent?

PinkyOfPie · 15/10/2016 09:44

Also the CPS statement issued has serious undertones of "he got away with it because it couldn't be proved beyond reasonable doubt" and also commended the victim's bravery. They wouldn't do that to a woman who they thought was "crying rape"

Fucking hell these apologist views make me so cross I can't believe people can be so inherently thick