To not want to suffer other people's cats in our own gardens??

[Kione]

They have peed on DP veggies, they have some acidic pee or something that killed strawberries? I do not touch anything that grows in our garden as I am pregnant. Bliming unfair.
One killed mt DD's bunny last year, bunny was about 12 weeks old. Can you imagine DD's heartbreak?? I well up just remembering.
There is one that has made his den in the front garden bushes, the grass around his den is gone and he is there all day.
Yesterday I stood on poo in my own garden.
I am seriously pissed off now!!!

But as said, we wouldn't get a dog because we worry that he would bark whilst alone at home. We are considerate with other, see.

Knew it wouldn't be long before the fu ked up posts about killing cats would be on.
I hope mn delete them and actually take a stand about this.
I am sick to the back teeth seeing these fucked up comments.
Sick in the head to even make them.

Op i am really sorry for the loss of your rabbit, i would be devestated if it happened to mine.
We also have a cat and one that we lost in an accident.
I didn't think about going to get justice though.
(My comment not directed at you op but at the comments about poisoning them).

Get a greyhound. The only dog I've seen to actually catch a cat grin Mozfan1 I found this comment quite sickening....that's why. I just don't get why people are so bothered. I stepped in dog shit the other day and it stuck to my shoe, then it flew up and splattered on my jeans, I was going out for a bloody meal and I stank of dog shit. But this does not make me want to run over/poison/train another animal to kill all dogs! they're just animals, its not their fault and we should learn to live with it these minor inconveniences.

little I never trained my dogs that way. Some fucked up gambling people who make a quick quid out of vulnerable dogs did. I would have thought my grin was indicative of a lighthearted comment. I have no problem with cats or dogs personally. I didn't get greyhounds to purposely hurt any other animals, It's just nature unfortunately. Get over it.

The cat doesn't know it's your home. The cat didn't know that you loved the bunny. The cats probably like your property because no other cat has marked their territory there and it has become communal. You can remedy this by using deterrents.

The difference between a cat killing a rabbit and you killing a cat by mixing poison with food or hitting it with your car is that you did it intentionally. In your hypothetical scenarios, leaving the body of the cat for the owner to find doesn't make things square because you intentionally killed it and laid it out for them to find. The cat and its owner did not set out to purposely kill and ensure that you found the body of a pet that you loved. Thinking that doing this would be quid pro quo is bizarre.

As for "why is it cruel to keep a cat inside but not a rabbit" - cats like to roam and have territories, rabbits like to dig and live in colonies, so if you want to get technical, keeping a rabbit in a pen, inside or out, isn't that fantastic.

Grow up and sort it out. Buy some deterrents. Make your garden unattractive for cats with citrus smells, use the lion manure fertiliser mentioned up thread on your veg patch, and get a water pistol. House any future rabbits properly - a cat cannot undo latches or dig into a rabbit run.

Why is it okay to talk about poisoning cats? I mean, seriously? That's just sick. Yes, it's not nice cleaning up their poo but saying you're going to lay down poison for the express purpose of killing someone else's pet is really disgusting.

Thing is, OP, the death of your DD's rabbit seems to be blurring things for you a bit. Cats can't open hutches, so either the rabbit was loose or the hutch wasn't secured properly. That's not the cats fault, that's yours as the parent. Why wasn't the hutch locked?

I would have thought my grin was indicative of a lighthearted comment.

This makes sense now you've explained it, but looking at your original comment, it did look like you were laughing at the idea of a greyhound catching and killing a cat.

also, it's not nature if they've been trained to do it

I'm with you OP. I'm forever picking up cat shit so my daughter can play in the garden. I can't even open the windows upstairs in the summer as the cats come into our house. Last year one came in and did a shit in my baby's bedroom. But apparently that's normal cat behaviour and we should put up with it! I think they should be kept in doors if you can't make them crap in your own garden. They are also terrible for the wild bird populations.

trufflesnout exactly!

trufflesnout I never mentioned poison, and never said I'd run over a cat intentionally. And I am not going to repeat what I did say as it is tiring.

Jeeez.

truffle, do your research, greyhounds have natural instincts even when not trained, hence why they are used to race. Of course it was bloody lighthearted for crying out loud! We were all very distraught when our greyhound caught a cat. It was a very sad moment. But as nature is, you can't control every single animal all the time, and our dogs have the right to occupy their garden at will, providing we have taken steps to prevent their escape/ interest from cats.

I made a lighthearted comment because personally I don't care what animal roam in and out of my gardens, as I love them all/ they all have the right to/ it can't possibly be policed. We didn't rescue greyhounds to prevent animals entering our land, but it is a by product of owning them. Simple.

I'm with you OP. There are SO MANY cats round here. Everyone on my street has at least one. Next door has 4! Can't be good for the local ecosystem. They kill a lot of birds. We've tried loads of deterents. It's really annoying having to pick up someone else's pet's shit from your own garden. I can never get them with the water pistol because they leg it out of the garden when they hear the door opening/see us through the window.

It was frustrating when the cats owners were angry at our dog when their cat was technically trespassing when it was 'attacked' by one of our dogs. It pissed me right off o be quite honest. I love all animals and wouldn't intentionally subject one to danger, but I can't stop a cat wondering into our dogs space. Cats are 'wild' if that's the right word. If they can scale our fences that's not my fault. Tough.

Notanother1 yep cats are cats and we are psychopaths if we try to get deter them.

Notanother1 I'm sorry a cat shit in your house {grin}, but its not really the end of the world is it! the wild bird population thing is a bit of a myth, cats kill already sick/injured birds that will die - very rarely healthy ones. My cat is too lazy to go out and has never killed a thing (and he only shits in his litter tray - he's a good boy!) my nana's spaniel however has killed rabbits, a chicken, a lovely wood pigeon and shits everywhere...

My bunny was in my property, it was secured. But mainly he was in my property, other peoples pets are not welcome but there is nothing I can do.

Are you seriously saying the cat should have left the rabbit alone because it was on your property?

I MUST be misunderstanding because nobody is that thick.

...and I think you'll find nobody has said it would be wrong to deter them. People have said it would be wrong to harm a cat with poison etc.

You sound very childish.

Notanother1 thinking about I don't believe a cat shit in your house, I think you're making that up! cats always 'go' in the same place, my only guess (if you are telling the truth) is that the poor thing was locked in your house by accident and needed to go.

I used to have a hose at the ready where I used to live.
Next doors cats shat all over my garden.
Used to drive me insane.
The hose did wonders though.
They were very cute cats, I have to admit.

And you do misunderstand.
Thick and childish. I imagine I sound defensive as I am trying to respond to insults without doing the same.

I agree lLittle. My cats couldn't hunt a bird to save their lives. The most they do is dig worms out of the garden and leave them in the lounge for me. I then pick up poor little wormies (alive & in one piece) and leave them back out whilst my slightly dim cats spend another half hour walking around the lounge looking for the worm they just watched me take out back out to the garden

I don't think you've answered the questions about the rabbit being secured properly, OP? (Apologies if I've missed it).

I fail to see how a cat could get into a rabbit hutch/run unless it wasn't secured properly.

The bird thing is a myth.
Look it up.
Also know when mine were allowed out they didn't attack anything as they were scared witless.
I don't think the op sounds like a psychopath it's posters laughing at poisoning them that do.
Twisted.

You could put up a notice telling cats to keep out.
I am feeling helpful today.

Mozfan absolutely not, sorry I should have been clearer. I know what sighthounds are like especially ex-racers and you sound like you were additionally considerate with your attempts to secure your garden.
I meant people who get pet dogs and deliberately train or encourage aggression.