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AIBU to think that Nursery shouldn't have done this?

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CtotheB · 09/10/2016 09:23

We have recently started weaning my 6 month old DD with fruit purée and some BLW. At the minute it is 1-2 meals per day. She was at Nursery all day on Monday so I dropped her off with her usual milk and a jar of food I know she liked and wasn't allergic to (hasn't previously had a reaction). On Thursday she was in from 12.30-4pm so I gave her breakfast and thought she would be fine at nursery and give her tea at 5/6pm. Anyway when I picked her up her diary said she really enjoyed her yoghurt, but I hadn't given a yoghurt for her to have. Queried this and they said they have Nursery fromage frais that they'd given her. AIBU to think they shouldn't have done this, given the fact she a) hasn't had dairy (aside from milk) and b) didn't seek permission?? In hindsight after a bit of research I've decided the only fromage frais she will be having is no added refined sugar, as this is the 3rd or 4th highest ingredient in most!! She's a baby fgs I don't think she needs the sugar..

OP posts:
RayofFuckingSunshine · 09/10/2016 13:55

It is highly unlikely for a baby to be lactose intolerant. Dairy allergies in babies are an allergy to the protein in cows milk, not lactose.

Discopanda · 09/10/2016 13:58

Wait, did the OP blame MNetters for childhood obesity?!

Ilovenannyplum · 09/10/2016 14:05

Nah, disco she blamed yoghurt Confused

ayeokthen · 09/10/2016 14:07

Discopanda she said it was no wonder that childhood obesity was so high with our attitudes food. This from a woman that thinks there's more sugar in a small fromage frais than a jar of purée Hmm

Eyedrophell · 09/10/2016 14:08

As a nursery we wouldn't offer a new food at nursery until it has been tried twice at home. I agree it's unlikely to have been an issue but it's not good practice.

It's hard when your child is not with you and others make decisions that you perhaps wouldn't have. Pick the things that really matter to you (if that sugar theb that's fair enough) otherwise no matter what childcare you pick you will be driving yourself and them potty trying to micro manage every decision.

We have managed a number of very specific requests over the years, a good nursery should be able to accommodate most.

StStrattersOfMN · 09/10/2016 14:14

Sugar is sugar, whether it's fructose, glucose, or honey from pink sparking unicorn bees.

Ridiculous overreaction, there's more sugar in your JAR of fruit purée (which isn't juice, it's whole puréed fruit btw), than there is in a fromage frais. Come back and bitch about fromage frais when you've figured out how to weave your own quinoa.

BruceBogtrotter101 · 09/10/2016 14:18

Christ you sound like hard work. And stop looking for allergies where your child has none, and thank goodness she doesn't. My daughter is allergic to nuts and it's really not fun I promise Hmm

StStrattersOfMN · 09/10/2016 14:18

Re PFB comments. It's not caring less, it's a simple matter of perspective and competence.

coffeeslave · 09/10/2016 14:19

FWIW sugar is a "natural" product, it's made from either beets or cane. You know, plants. Fruit sugar is also sugar.

StStrattersOfMN · 09/10/2016 14:21

I'm contact anaphylactic to dairy. That's a barrowload of laughs. OP be grateful for your healthy child, and relax a whole load or your life is going to become hellish.

Crunchymum · 09/10/2016 14:30

I actually didn't find out my child had CMPA until weaning. Once I knew I did look back on the first six months and had a bit of a light bulb moment (CMPA was of course the reason my DD was sicky and miserable and small - not colic or fussy as suggested by the various HCP I saw)

However as I had no idea about the allergy I didn't think the avoid dairy?? Its not the logical thing most parents would jump to? Avoid dairy when weaning incase of an allergy?

With regards to everything else OP yes YABVU and a bit twatty!!!

Flyingbellycopters · 09/10/2016 14:34

Breast milk is lactose. If child is intolerant you'll know within weeks of birth.
But no YANBU. If you want to be in charge of diet for your baby you have very right to be especially at just six months old.

justiceboner · 09/10/2016 14:41

If your child has primary lactose intolerance i.e. they completely lack the enzyme to digest lactose youre going to know all about it pdq. The nappies of a LI child make Neocate/Nutramigen (for those in the know) nappies look tame by comparison

Its also exceedingly rare now in the western population, chances are if your baby is LI then another member of the family is as its primarily heridetary.
If you're of asian/oriental descent things are different.

Lactose is milk SUGAR. Its found in all mammal milks

Cow's milk protein allergy aka CMPA is a different kettle of fish. Nappies slightly less vile. Caused by an inability to break down the PROTEINS in cow's milk. Not always immediately apparent. If youre CMPA, you can't have cows milk or any lactofree products. However depending on your degree of tolerance you may be able to have some other mammal milks but fgs check with someone in the medical know first.

If youre really (un)lucky like my 2nd dc, you can end up CMPA and also have a secondary lactose intolerance i.e. they havent had lactose for so long now they have lost the ability to digest it. Use it or lose it kind of thing.

OP, you'd have known a long time ago if your child had any kind of food issue, especially if they were lactose intolerant. And the chances are if the nursery would have fed a LI child a yoghurt they would have been calling you to come and collect your diahorrhea ridden child.

DorothyHarris · 09/10/2016 14:42

I can kind of see where the OP is coming from. I have 6m old twins and feel slightly neurotic about them eating things I don't know about I'm looking at you DMbut that's because my DD has quite a severe egg allergy and it's really frightening when she has a reaction.
I do understand your point OP but at some point you will need to unclench.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 09/10/2016 14:43

I weaned on to mushed up veggies, carrot and parsnip mostly. Later I added cooked dried apricots to squelched banana, which is a strong taste. Made all my own baby food because the bought stuff tastes awful. Really bland. I wouldn't eat it so why should my baby? I believe that if babies are offered a wide range of full flavours, scents and colours they will be more adventurous as they grow and it worked with mine. Making your own is very little trouble with a freezer I remember one friend being amazed watching my 2.5,yo eating mussels from the shell.

Allergies are a different matter. I have one DS with a life-threatening allergy to peanuts. I have very little tolerance for precious mothers who self-diagnose supposed "intolerances". If a doctor has confirmed it, different story, but every made up, attention seeking food problem makes it more likely some idiot will decide my DS's allergy is probably just a pose. Which could kill him. Even contact sets him off.

justiceboner · 09/10/2016 14:45

FWIW im in the middle of making tandoori chicken kebabs for tea- not for no2 though as he wouldnt eat them anyway, milk or not

Using greek yoghurt to do it, and reading on the back of the pot it has 4g of carbs per 100g. Of which sugar 4g.

Even the 'natural' stuff has sugar in it OP and thats before you get into the whole sweetened with fruit juice stuff

MOIST · 09/10/2016 14:45

Bless.
Can you come back in 10 years or so and let us know how things went?

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/10/2016 14:51

MOIST. Grin

Lighthouseturquoise · 09/10/2016 14:55

Op, they shouldn't really have given her yoghurt purely because she's so young and only just being weaned.

But, you are going to look back on this in years to come and cringe. In the big scheme of things it doesn't matter.

She isn't going to be contaminated by a bit of yoghurt. She's going to end up eating all kinds of things.

ayeokthen · 09/10/2016 14:56

Just wait until she eats some grass or something off the floor at nursery Grin yoghurt will look like manna from heaven then Grin

Twig45 · 09/10/2016 15:12

Just caught this threat and it does irritate when people get so obsessed with childhood obesity when their kid is 6 months old. Children need a variety of food to grow eating adult types healthy foods i.e. Low carbs low fat etc is very unhealthy for kids. Also unhealthy food doesnt make a kid fat, unhealthy foods make a kid unhealthy. too much food and not enough activity makes a kid fat . I know a child who has eaten lentils and veg all his life (obviously too much of it) and now age 5 is very overweight and mum can't understand as he is so healthy!

StStrattersOfMN · 09/10/2016 15:20

Caused by an inability to break down the PROTEINS in cow's milk.

Can I just correct that. CMPA is not caused by an inability to break down the protein, it's an immune system response to one of the proteins in cows milk.

ayeokthen · 09/10/2016 15:22

StStrattersOfMN our DS had severe CMPA, apparently it was an immune reaction caused by his inability to "hydrolyse" (their word) or break down milk proteins. He was put on Nutramigen which had pre-hydrolysed proteins and he was fine. Maybe there's different kinds of CMPA? I know all the reactions are very different, and some babies need completely milk protein free formula.

StStrattersOfMN · 09/10/2016 15:31

Mostly depends who told you, I've heard so much rubbish from Drs about allergies, there is a frightening level of ignorance. :(

Ausernotanumber · 09/10/2016 15:35

StStratters it also commonly comes with a transient PID that kids grow out of :)

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