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I'm petrified of working for a female boss.

132 replies

earlyrise · 06/10/2016 21:29

I recently accepted a new job and my line manager changed from male to female after I signed the contract. To put it bluntly - I'm gutted.

Despite being relatively young, I'm a skilled professional with nearly 20 years' experience in my (male-dominated) field and have risen to a good level within my career at a fairly good pace. I have a solid reputation among my peers as being diligent, reliable, popular and most importantly able to deliver. I'm a boss too and I really try to be aware of my attitude and behaviour with my team and I think I've done pretty well on this one.

Despite my success, I feel I've suffered at the hands of the female bosses who have appeared in my life. Without fail, when it's time to re-structure (which happens every six months these days) I've either been demoted or let go pretty soon (once three times in two years by the same boss). Despite this I've never received any negative feedback and they've always provided fantastic references once I was gone.

Over the years, I've tried all the tactics - be quiet, be friendly, not challenge, be more visible, be less visible, not complain, do extra work, wear flat shoes, give compliments, promote her among her peers, not be too confident, be less good, not promote my achievements etc...but nothing seemed to work for any of them. I gave up on my career and left my job to be unemployed.

When I reflect on my experiences over the last 20 years, there seems to be a pattern. The male bosses in my career, in comparison have mentored, promoted and supported me and done everything in their power to sponsor my success. It's been a different world and was able to be myself.

Is there anything I can do to make it better this time? I'm so scared.

OP posts:
wewereonabreak1 · 06/10/2016 21:52

YANBU to an extent. Some female bosses ive worked for have been hell far more than any male
Counterpart.

I'm prepared to be flamed but....it's my experience and I'll stand by it.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 06/10/2016 21:53

Are you serious? You're putting your previous bad experiences down to them being female?

^ this

YABVVVVVVVU

PurpleDaisies · 06/10/2016 21:54

wewere would you prejudge how a new boss might behave based on their chromosomes?

Crispsheets · 06/10/2016 21:55

What an idiot you sound

TheRadiantAerynSun · 06/10/2016 21:56

Worst boss I ever had was female, but that's because she was a prat not because she was a woman.

I'm female and a great boss Grin I notice when they work hard, produce results, think, learn, co-operate. I encourage them, male and female, to be bold, aim high and speak up about how good they are.

dinosaursarebisexual · 06/10/2016 21:56

Do you act differently toward any females you manage?

eurochick · 06/10/2016 21:57

You sound ridiculous. And sexist. Just work with your new boss as a person. Forget about her genitalia.

swizzlestar · 06/10/2016 21:58

I'm a female boss in a very male dominated industry. This sounds like your problem tbh. How can you judge all female bosses the same?!

earlyrise · 06/10/2016 21:58

Thank you for all the feedback. It's pretty unanimous.

I'm not a troll and I was being as honest as I could. It's the way I was feeling. I didn't 'think' I had a problem with women - but maybe I actually do. At least I can work on that now. I'm really glad that IABU. So, thanks again.

OP posts:
wewereonabreak1 · 06/10/2016 21:59

purple Who said anything about me prejudging? I've given OP the facts about my experiences. I don't think the OP ibu to be worried about something based on her experiences.

I dont want to bore you with the minutiae of my life and experiences but I've been left open mouthed by some people I've had the misfortune of working for and sadly they were women.

PalaceResident · 06/10/2016 21:59

I'm hoping she is a really good boss (like many of us on here pride ourselves in striving to be everyday) and calls your on your sexism because it must seep out in other areas too.

I can't engage with this discussion anymore AngryAngry

Brokenbiscuit · 06/10/2016 22:00

I'm a boss too and I really try to be aware of my attitude and behaviour with my team and I think I've done pretty well on this one.

So how would you feel if a new team member wrote you off as a boss because of your gender? Would you think it was fair?

You don't sound very professional at all, tbh. Indeed, I find your views quite offensive. Substitute an ethnicity instead of gender and perhaps you'll realise how badly you have come across.

I'm not really surprised that you didn't get on with your previous female bosses if you approached them with this kind of attitude.

Topseyt · 06/10/2016 22:02

I have only ever had one woman boss, and I am afraid she was dreadful. A spiteful, backstabbing bully if ever there was one. That was just who she was though. It wasn't down to her being female, it just so happened. There are good and bad bosses of both genders.

All of my male bosses have been the complete opposite to her, so in a way I guess my experience mirrors yours, OP. It doesn't make me anti-women bosses though in the same way you seem to be. I am just anti the one that I had because of the way she treated me and others. No need to tar them all with the same brush, they are all different people.

Do you know this new boss you are going to have? Have you met her before? Is there any feedback from previous team members of hers?

Give things a chance. You might have a better experience this time.

Lorelei76 · 06/10/2016 22:02

This is the most bonkers thread I e seen in ages.

Try seeing people as human beings?

PurpleDaisies · 06/10/2016 22:02

I wasn't saying you had prejudged anyone, wewere, I was asking whether you would in future if you changed jobs.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 06/10/2016 22:02

OP, if you are actually this silly and generalising in the workplace then you deserve to be scared. Stop being sexist and so self-absorbed and just get on with your work.

OneFootinFront · 06/10/2016 22:04

YABU

Kewcumber · 06/10/2016 22:04

I think you should resign and spare the poor woman who has to deal with me.

I once had a woman who worked for me when I arrived at a new job say to me "I don't want to work for a woman" and proceeded to be a sour faced difficult madam the whole time. I cheered a silent cheer when she resigned.

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wewereonabreak1 · 06/10/2016 22:06

purple

Probably not but I'd spot it straight away if she had the same characteristics as those I've worked
For previously and I'd be less likely (with the benefit of age and hindsight) to put up with any crap.

I refuse to change who I am. Take me as you find me and I think OP you would be doing yourself a favour if you did this too.

Kewcumber · 06/10/2016 22:08

I once had a male employee totally stab me in the back (luckily I had witnesses for the event he was claiming had happened but hadn't), I've had male employees turn up stoned, make huge mistakes etc - I've been a boss a long time...

never started saying "oh I dread having a man work for me"

Want2bSupermum · 06/10/2016 22:11

I hear what you are saying and I think you have an issue of holding your female bosses to a different standard. I have seen it as a manager whereby I have one female working for me who treats me like a mate who they want to have a gossip with. I can't stand it and totally don't rate her because of that. I am her boss, writing her review and deciding on her pay. She should treat me with the same amount of respect that she treats her male bosses.

OTOH I have had women I have totally avoided working for and currently on my 'DO NOT COLLABORATE' list there are 8 names, 5 of which are female. It is a lot considering I am in a male dominated group in my firm which is very female friendly. I have had the amazing experience of being mentored by some amazing females who will always inspire me.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 06/10/2016 22:11

Fair play to OP for taking the YABU on the chin and agreeing that she could be the one with the problem, though.

TheDowagerCuntess · 06/10/2016 22:11

Wow, some people really do live in their own little head, don't they.

I had no idea I was supposed to be going around terrified of female bosses. I've had a few in my time, and zero issues.

The problem is not with the gender of your managers, but with the individual themselves, and - meant as kindly as possible - with you, OP.

As everyone else has said, just be yourself!

TwigletsMakeMeViolent · 06/10/2016 22:13

"Probably not but I'd spot it straight away if she had the same characteristics as those I've worked For previously and I'd be less likely (with the benefit of age and hindsight) to put up with any crap."

That doesn't make sense. You're saying you wouldn't prejudge, but you'd be looking out for this female-specific behaviour you'd experienced in the past? What is that if it's not pre-judging? And also, what kind of behaviour is it that, in your experience, women bosses exhibit?