To think this teachers response was a bit shit? Or perhaps I am being horrendously precious?

[Gallopingthundercunt]

Hugely identifying if the teacher is reading but what the hell.....

DS(12) wanted to start a club at school yesterday but (for reasons best known to himself) turned up at the wrong time. He immediately went to find the teacher running the club and apologised to her, asking her whether he would still be allowed to take part. She told him that part of the requirements for the club were that he was punctual and reliable, since he had been neither then he couldn't

When DS got home he was in tears over the incident. In fairness, my DSDad (his grandad) died unexpectedly last week so I feel his response may be slightly coloured by emotion. We discussed what had happened and he accepted that he was in the wrong to turn up late and that the teacher has every right to refuse him entry to the club.

I then emailed the teacher to explain the situation (as I have above) and ask whether she would reconsider, given the circumstances and how upset DS was. For the record I have never sent an email like this in all of DS's school career, but I felt very strongly that I needed to raise the issue. This morning I received a rather curt email telling me that despite DS being under "some emotional strain" that she would not reconsider. She also reiterated the qualities that were required for the club and how DS was lacking in them.

My first response was disbelief and now (if I'm honest) real anger. I need to acknowledge her reply but I'm seriously unsure whether to take it further or whether I will appear a raving harpie who thinks the rules shouldn't apply to my precious snowflake. I'm normally quite laid back and would simply tell DS to learn from his mistakes, but this incident and the subsequent email have really got my hackles up. So AIBU or is the teacher?

Go over her head. Speak to the head of year. Forward your email.

I would leave it.

He will have a shit time at the club with such a nasty teacher. I don't encourage my dc to spend time with people who are nasty.

Maybe get him to set up a fake election getting him to be able to join the club

I thought school clubs were meant to be fun? I know that the woman who ran dd's chamber choir was like this though, and so many pupils were put off that the club wound up last term (it was shit by then anyway - embarrassingly bad, you would see parents wincing at its awfulness at school concerts).

Teacher is a cow & your son is better off not being in her poxy little club anyway.

I am a teacher and I think that his teacher is a power hungry bitch.

I haven't read the whole thread but I'm a teacher and she's being a complete cow. I'm sad for your son, bless him.

Maybe he should write the letter....

" dear Mrs X, maybe the first debate should be about whether one mistake in punctuality should render employees solely able to claim JSA. I'm volunteering for tge against side. Let me know what date the debate is on"

Or dear Mrs X, youre a dickhead. Let's take a vote.

Teacher here, horrified by her behaviour. Totally unacceptable and mean, under any circumstances.

It's not great, but she is giving up her time. I don't think your DS has any automatic right to attend. You may need to try a bit harder to understand what has gone on here.

id go over the teachers head and speak to their superior , so u dont have to waste ur energy getting into a tit for tat with someone who is frankly being unreasonable !
good luck :)

If you are going to go over the teacher's head, be prepared for her to shut the club down.

If it's youth Parliament the students would have been registered on the initial session so he would have missed it. It's time consuming and a massaive pain in the arse to register afterwards (don't forget these are run in teachers breaks so they aren't under any obligation to do so) however I do think the email was rather curt and could have offered a fuller explanation.

He didn't miss the first session though, he was simply late - as can happen.

Obviously the cunt of a teacher is lacking something called empathy and probably doesn't get any so is angry with the world. What a horrible person YADNBU I'd be fuming

He turned up at the wrong time, not late because he couldn't be arsed. But it was till his error and believe me (and the many other teachers here) we here all sorts of excuses for shite timekeeping and, to be blunt, we very, very often do not have the time to accommodate all late comers. Especially for things like the Youth Parliament where there are all sorts of things that happen, once, at the very beginning, in order to get the whole thing rolling. It isn't 'just' an after school club!

Why did he have the wrong time? OP said, "for reasons of his own" so, he forgot, got mixed up, went somehwere else first... whatever. He was late for no other reason than he got it wrong.

Having said all of that, like maddy and others, I am a bit if her repsonse was that curt! Maybe his letter will swing it, but, if she really does not have time, deadlines have loomed then he may not have much luck.

Then again.... www.ukyouthparliament.org.uk/about-us/becoming-a-member/

He could stand as an independent

Obviously the cunt of a teacher is lacking something called empathy You can see the irony there.... surely

Calling the teacher a cunt is bizarre given this level of detail. We don't actually know why she is such a stickler for punctuality. Maybe she has been telling them for weeks when the club is happening and reiterating that people not there for the first session won't be joining.

Trifleorbust

I suspect that punctuality is a requirement as from the (sparse) information given is a lunchtime club.

I also suspect that as the OP's Ds had to find the teacher he didn't (as some people have posted) arrive late but missed it, as if he had just been late he wouldn't have to find the teacher.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to call her a cunt TBH

DS missed the first meeting as it was only twenty minutes long so had finished by the time he turned up late. I hadn't realised that the meeting may involve registration etc. which would explain the inexplicable decision not to allow him to take part. Had this been mentioned in the email I would think the teacher was a bit harsh in the way she spoke to DS but that he would have to accept not taking part as a consequence of his mistake

What actual reason did she give for saying no?

This teacher has been called, amongst other things, and on the basis of pretty limited evidence, a cunt, a bitch and a dickhead. That level of visceral contempt towards teachers is normal for Mumsnet and, perhaps, society more widely. I'm so, so glad to have retired.