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Having a newborn baby's ears pierced.

217 replies

metaphoricus · 27/09/2016 21:41

I know that millions of people do it.
But the baby has no choice. I would so like to know the explanations for the decision to put a hole through your baby's perfectly formed ears.
Why would you do that?
(I had a friend who did that, and I had to ring an ambulance because the 2 month old baby got a blood infection). Mum didn't want to call an ambulance because she was afraid of being told off for doing this to her child. She was bathing her 2 month old baby's ear in olive oil, and hoping for the best. Please let your child grow up, and then decide if they want a piercing. Babes in arms do not have a choice.

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Doggity · 28/09/2016 10:37

Only on MN would someone compare preventing a deadly disease to decorating their child's ears. Grin

MuseumOfCurry · 28/09/2016 11:43

It looks dreadful.

Simmi1 · 28/09/2016 11:49

I am from a culture where it's acceptable and as such mine were done at a young age. I would not do it to my DDs though and I do think they look awful. In my DM's defence though I don't remember the pain and it saved my from doing them myself later...

MitzyLeFrouf · 28/09/2016 12:19

Well it has been at least a week since this debate last took place. I'm sure there have been many exciting advances in the world of ear piercing in that time.............

Egoanono · 28/09/2016 12:35

I won't pierce my children's ears. I will wait until they ask and aim to hold out until they are 10 or 11. It will be a rite of passage for them, on the brink of becoming teenagers.

IceBeing · 28/09/2016 12:54

avimah no, the skin bacteria from the ear piercing took up residence on my heart valve...so the piercing caused the infection, but the infection was in my heart. It is actually sufficiently common that they now advise people with non-perfect hearts not to have piercings (or tattoos for that matter), but at the time that message wasn't really out there.

About 25% of people have some sort of heart weirdness and few of those are bad enough to be diagnosed at birth...so basically why take the entirely unnecessary risk?

Famalam13 · 28/09/2016 13:02

I don't like it. Main reason is because I didn't have my ears pierced until I was 20. Did my research and found a reputable place. Followed the cleaning instructions to the letter. Could never wear earrings without pain and frequently had pus build up in one lobe. Haven't worn any for 6 months now and still have occasional problems. Why would you risk doing that to a baby? I at least have only myself to blame.

Also I can't understand why anyone would make their baby cry for anything other than a medical procedure.

OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 28/09/2016 13:39

Simmi In my DM's defence though I don't remember the pain and it saved my from doing them myself later...

Hmm

Not remembering the pain is not the same as not experiencing the pain.

I don't remember the pain of getting mine done, either the first set (done with a piercing gun) or the second set (done myself with a needle). I know in theory it was painful (especially the second set!) but I don't actually remember the feeling of pain.

So regardless, it's painful to some degree. Much better that the person is old enough to make an active choice.

The only thing in your DMs defence is that it was her culture at the time, and people tend to go along with this stuff without even thinking about it. See also circumcision in the USA...

Albadross · 29/09/2016 09:14

*Aren't some of you sweet! Hating on cultures that have their children's ears.

If you hate something doesn't mean you can undermine someone else's culture and parenting, it's not CHILD ABUSE!

Having you're baby's ear pierced does not = horrible parent.

And yes some of you do need to get over yourselves, acting all high and mighty because you didn't have it done for your child, while your all it...

How about feeding children a snacks that contain harmful chemicals,food dyes and pesticides one could say that child abuse!
Giving you're child take away, letting them drink coke that's harmful to their insides.

Isn't that child abuse? The child has no choice what it eats??*

Nobody said anybody's actual culture was terrible or that they're 'horrible parents'.

We're saying ear piercing is totally unnecessary, and I believe in challenging cultural norms when they don't serve us - especially women - well. As someone said, why take a risk just so people know your baby is a girl? Why is that important?

And as nobody's yet brought up feminism, I'll say that it smacks of pushing societal/cultural expectations for what it is to be a 'pretty girl' on babies. We look 'pretty' without bits of metal stuck in us. This is my biggest issue with it really.

And I do think people should be conscious of what they feed their children and not knowingly feed them anything that might harm them but we can't actually survive without food. It's more trappings of patriarchy. We punch tags into the ears of dairy cows and we do the same to our women Hmm. At least the tag in a cow's ear has a function.

It is possible (and desirable IMO) that the bad bits of cultures can be got rid of as we grow and learn, because culture isn't just about external appearances, it's much deeper than that. Religions do away with certain traditions over time. People often use external symbols to feel like they belong, but isn't it better for your sense of belonging to come from a deeper connection of shared wisdom and experience?

Also all these anecdotes of 'I had mine done and I didn't die' - Surely people know you can't really take that as evidence of it being harmless (especially since a PP nearly died from hers). 35% of piercings get infected, you can also be allergic to the metal, and technically it's a trauma, a wound that the body has to heal. So it never fully 'heals', and the cheesy stuff that accumulates is your body trying to push out the foreign object. If you want to change your hair colour you do a patch test and the risk is printed all over the box, yet you can walk into Claire's Accessories and have someone with the most basic of training do something that is more painful than minor surgery your fully-qualified doctor might perform, and for no reason other than wanting to fit in.

IceBeing · 29/09/2016 09:45

albadross I think a true feminist perspective would be not that 'we look pretty without metal in our ears' but that we don't need to look pretty at all.

If you want your daughters to earn the same as your sons for the same work , then you need to stop treating your daughters in ways you wouldn't treat your sons.

Did the people who pierced their baby daughters also pierce their baby boys? Or are baby piercers generally ragingly sexist as a group?

Albadross · 29/09/2016 16:34

Yes Ice - you said it far better than I did!

MypocketsarelikeNarnia · 29/09/2016 16:36

Or are baby piercers generally ragingly sexist as a group?

Where does that bear shit icebeing?

There's a whole lot of cultural relativism on here. I thought that had gone out with the GLC...

IceBeing · 29/09/2016 16:59

mypocket sorry - I don't know what point you are making or even in which direction.

I think my culture is sexist in that men are only frowned upon for wondering around with their nipples out, while a woman doing the same would stop the traffic.

Is it cultural? Of course. Does that stop it being ragingly sexist? Nope.

Same for enforce gendered clothing. Same for buzz cuts for boys, pigtails for girls.

MypocketsarelikeNarnia · 29/09/2016 22:15

Sorry icebeing I was agreeing with you. Grin But clearly not well.

As in 'are people who have their daughters' ears pierced sexist? Does a bear shit in the woods?' The answer being - well yeah obviously. You don't put holes in baby girls to dangle shit off unless you have a fucking twisted idea of what girls are for do you?

And 'it's my/their culture' is a complete moral vacuum and I thought anyone with any sense had worked that out a very long time ago.

AuntieStella · 29/09/2016 22:22

"I don't know what GF means. I have looked on the acronym list and it's not there. I want to know if I am unreasonable for hating earrings in babies. I am a newbie here and I only know the written rules, not the unwritten rules. Are you the boss of Mumsnet? I am thinking of making this my hobby. HTH"

That sounds a lot like GF-iness

One thing, from seeing many if these threads over the years, is that I no longer really care much about the age that people decide to let their DC have earlobe piercings.

But I do think that anyone who sees a single earlobe piercing as multinational is a teensy bit over-invested.

AuntieStella · 29/09/2016 22:23

'multinational'
WTF, DYAC

it was meant to say 'mutilation'

IceBeing · 30/09/2016 10:33

mypocket ahhh yes, I get it now Blush

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