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to ask if you would vote for Corbyn and what area of the country you are in?

753 replies

WillyW8nker · 27/09/2016 14:43

Just curious as to whether Corbyn's re-election means his popularity is better than the polls suggest and also if there is a divide in the geographical location of his supporters.

So, would you vote for Corbyn if there was a GE tomorrow and what part of the country are you in?

Me: I would vote for him. I am in London.

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mathsmum314 · 28/09/2016 21:07

I was being ironic, just heard an interview where that was claimed. I dont believe it for a second.

Wayfarersonbaby · 28/09/2016 21:15

No. I'm a die-hard Labour voter but have just cancelled my party membership because I can't abide Corbyn.

RockyBird · 28/09/2016 21:16

Scotland and no way.

engineersthumb · 28/09/2016 21:20

Mathsmum I'm so relieved :)

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/09/2016 21:21

engineersthumb I liked Blair of course he made the most terrible mistake going to war in Iraq (though I am sure the Tories would have done the same) and the fall out from that

The Labour Party under the Blair/Brown leadership were not perfect what government is but for many life improved though they also made mistakes

And Iraq will now always overshadow good that was done and the left of the party can claim Blair's labour was useless and did nothing for the poorer in our society but it was under his leadership Labour won three consecutive elections

surferjet · 28/09/2016 21:26

Yes I would.

London.

tangerino · 28/09/2016 21:26

Nope. I actually like my (Labour) MP but I'll be voting Lib Dem. I am a former Labour member- gave up my membership as I don't like where the party is heading. I'm in London (Hornsey & Wood Green constituency).

CockacidalManiac · 28/09/2016 21:27

Labour member for 30 years. No, I wouldn't.
West Midlands.

acornsandnuts · 28/09/2016 21:27

No. North east England.

Dawndonnaagain · 28/09/2016 21:28

Yes.
East Anglia.

mathsmum314 · 28/09/2016 21:28

Blair always gets blamed for war in Iraq, but Sadam was a brutal dictator who did unspeakable things, would the world have been a better place if we hadn't got rid of him?

I think his worst enemy was Brown, he could have done a lot more if Brown hadn't been such an enemy within.

surferjet · 28/09/2016 21:30

But he has to get rid of that complete idiot Diane Abbott. She's an embarrassment to the Labour Party & politics in general.

maggiethemagpie · 28/09/2016 21:31

Blairite and proud. He's the only one who managed to make the labour party electable.

tangerino · 28/09/2016 21:31

To add- my dislike of Corbyn is based on his general lack of competence, the fact that he's still fighting battles from 30 years ago, his inability to articulate any sort of meaningful policy (rather than empty slogans), his paranoid and bullying form of leadership and, most of all, his utter betrayal of working people over his approach to Brexit and his ongoing incompetence and ignorance about the likely repercussions of leaving the EU. Nothing to do with being left wing.

vvmama92 · 28/09/2016 21:32

Midlands. Yes I would, rejoined the Labour party with his leadership last year. He may not be a "leader" but we don't have a political system that requires one.

engineersthumb · 28/09/2016 21:43

Enthusiasm, maths,
Glad I'm not the only one to consider the Blair years generally successful. I feel my life improved and opportunities opened during this time. I also served in Iraq, my feeling is that it was better to go before credible/deployable WMDs were available. What would history say if we had had thousands of soldiers injured by chem/bio weapons? Perhaps the enquiries would have asked why did we not deploy earlier?

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/09/2016 21:45

What do you mean we don't have a political system that requires a leader ?

maggiethemagpie · 28/09/2016 21:48

Any system that consists of a number of people trying to do stuff needs a leader.

Think of any large organisation, would they have been able to be successful without a leader?

And you think the government doesn't need a leader????

mathsmum314 · 28/09/2016 21:50

I liked Blair when he was in power but what he has done since has been piggish.

The war in Iraq would have happened with or without our involvement. There was also a lot of other countries involved and supporting it.

NNChangeAgain · 28/09/2016 21:52

Not just the government, maggie (labour don't seem that bothered about that) but as the official opposition their role is, arguably, even more important, and requires even more coordination to achieve it effectively.

Without a leader, the 200 or so labour MPs could each oppose Government proposals with different objections, different arguments. That wouldn't be quite as effective as having a clear steer on how the party opposition should be presented.

mamadoc · 28/09/2016 21:55

I would 100% vote for him.

I think this country needs a real socialist government and a principled leader.

I don't understand why the press always say that he is unelectable and believe so strongly that no-one will vote for some who is 'too left wing'. The SNP surged to power in Scotland on an anti-austerity ticket. If they want it in Scotland why not here?

I am in Cambridge

maggiethemagpie · 28/09/2016 21:57

Yes, NNChange my main beef with JC (apart from the fact that his initials are the same as Jesus Christ) is his inability to lead...also he thinks he is bigger than the labour party, how big must his ego be to not do the decent thing and resign if it's clear that 172 of your MPs don't want you there.

Wayfarersonbaby · 28/09/2016 21:57

tangerino exactly. I find him very far from being "hard left"; there's a lot of woolly warm and vague rhetoric about liking unions, the NHS and workers' rights, but a total vacuum on policy that affects most people's lives. There is literally no policy work going on in his team, no vision, no awareness of the challenges that young people face today, no interest in women's equality, children's lives, education, the future, international affairs - zero.

In my area (SE) all the local party Corbynites are, literally without exception, baby boomers and pensioners, many of whom very well off indeed and who are quite open about their buy to lets and investment income and so on. Corbyn makes a lot of pleasing noises they like, because it's a kind of leftwing virtue signalling, but they are quite happy with Labour in opposition because their interests are actually pretty well served under the Tories. A real left-wing party would be telling those people they need to make some hard choices - if they want a well-funded NHS and progressive social policy then their housing and pension assets are going to have to be taxed, and they are going to have to give up some of their own benefits in order that families, young workers, children, disabled people, get some fairer treatment. Corbyn has literally no interest or willingness in thinking about the economic and structural future of the country - he's still fixated on the politics of 30 years ago.

Plus, the red line for me was both his and McDonnell's views on legalising prostitution. No, my kind of feminism doesn't accept that there can ever be any form of "civilised" prostitution, as Corbyn claims; and I won't pay membership fees to a party whose leader thinks women's bodies are just another form of commodity to be traded in a "civilised" way. It's as neoliberal a position as any Tory.

CockacidalManiac · 28/09/2016 21:59

The SNP surged to power in Scotland on an anti-austerity ticket. If they want it in Scotland why not here?

It's a myth that the SNP are left wing. There're a broad spectrum.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/09/2016 22:01

I agree engineer and agree it would have happened anyway. I beleive Blair held Bush back

Were we prepared enough to go to war and is this always a position we can be in. I think the issue was so complex there wasn't one right or wrong answer but only something needed to be done