to ask if you would vote for Corbyn and what area of the country you are in?

[WillyW8nker]

Just curious as to whether Corbyn's re-election means his popularity is better than the polls suggest and also if there is a divide in the geographical location of his supporters.

So, would you vote for Corbyn if there was a GE tomorrow and what part of the country are you in?

Me: I would vote for him. I am in London.

So sad isn't it. The disaster that was Ed caused this and now labour will reap the harvest. Or rather working people will as they become unelectable.

Corbyn just enjoys talking and mixing with his supporters, the clapping before his speech was vomit making.

The only way he will go is after labour have a catastrophic general election result and that won't be next year either. Theresa May does not need to call and election and nor will she.

No

East Midlands

Reading through the thread, there's lots of talk and assumptions about the 'hard left' voting for JC, and the 'centre left' having supported Owen Smith. I am certainly not 'hard left' by any means (would be interesting to hear solid definition of this also). However, I don't think Labour offered a viable alternative to JC in the recent leadership election, and the constant smears and attempts at sabotaging him did the party no favours at all. I felt that of the two he seemed to present a better option than Owen Smith, who seemed to have been wheeled out by anti-Corbyn MPs and whose sole main selling point appeared to be - I'm not Jeremy Corbyn. I certainly couldn't see Owen Smith winning a General Election. I don't necessarily agree with Corbyn on everything, wouldn't describe myself as a 'fan', 'Corbynista', or 'hard left' and yet on balance I was glad he won - and I would vote for Labour with him as leader against the current Tory government.

I think it's interesting the way the difference of definition between a "social democrat" and a "socialist" has opened up in Labour. This is the really active opposition - between the capitalist centre-left and the redistributive socialists who want something economically different.

I'm divided between whether this is interesting - or just a lot of talking shop without doing much for causes which is one of the least attractive aspects of party politics.

Social democracy along Scandinavian lines, even in its somewhat watered down contemporary form, is still much more redistributive than british policies of the last 15-20 years. A competent, organised and relatively charismatic Labour leader with that kind of policy, (and therefore to the left of Blair) without the baggage attached to Corbyn, is what I would like to see. But that person appears not to exist at the moment, or is still an unknown. I like the idea that Corbyn is shifting the party slightly leftward, considering what Owen Smith's platform was, and hope this paves the way for someone better at being a party leader.

"Socialism" often has old-school ideas attached that have the wrong priorities for the present; any significant change from the left these days needs to be focused on climate change, not on trying to recreate mid-twentieth century policies like nationalisation for its own sake, (or the "full automation with citizen's income" idea currently popular in some circles, which as a long term plan fails to take account of the imminence of environmental problems and resource issues.)

Pennycarbonara - would tend to agree

No he's not a leader a good MP and a protester at best and as a black person Diane Abbott saying eveyone who voted for brexit makes my fucking blood boil

I would have like to see Somone in the health mistery because they have talent nit because they shagged the leader yuk

I am black I don't mean because about is black🙁😳

I think we're just waiting for Sadqi Khan to get some balls and challage corbyn now he's the last hope for labour I think he's a wolf in soclist clothing

Very interesting set of points penny.

I agree that social democracy would be better than Blairism, and certainly better than anything anyone further right has to offer. I would vote for it (probably while grumbling grumpily).

I think my main concern is about the climate change thing. I don't think we can solve this with capitalism: because I think the essence of capitalism is a. unfairness (the surplus produced by labour syphoned off by the rich) and b. exploitation of natural resources to the limits of what is publicly acceptable for the sake of that same profit. I do believe that the fact that we are fast hitting up against all kinds of natural limits - and the ecological effects that are now pretty much inevitable as a direct consequence - will necessitate economic reorganization of one kind or another within the next 150 years.

But I'm derailing the thread now.

I'm with Penny, too.

London.

Lifelong Labour supporter, voter, member.

I didn't vote for Corbyn in either of the membership elections.

I may still vote Labour in future - lets see how it all plays out - but I have no faith in Corbyn and, sadly, I think Momentum are trying to destroy the Labour Party.

shovetheholly, there's a new thread about climate change in In The News that might be a good place for that discussion

Dear god, I've just watched the Labour party political broadcast, it was so embarrassingly bad I think I've actually done myself a cringing injury.

I always vote Labour and will probably continue to do so, even if an Eagle ran the show... I'm in Hull.

I've just watched that PPB too. I an very uncomfortable with the amount of screen time given to film of Corbyn surrounded by placards with his name on, compared to the brief image of the Labour logo at the end. It really is becoming the Corbyn party, not Labour. I want to vote for Labour which is why I can't vote for that protest group.

Thefishwife so agree. Dianne Abbott boils my piss with her sending her child to a private school. Would never ever trust her. The remarks about brexit are typically patronising and silly.

I really see Corbyn as a bit of a pathetic idiot who has suddenly been catapulted into power as a hard left puppet. He's a life long agitator and protester not a politician. It's bloody laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

I would.
Hampshire

Yes.

Yorkshire

onward

Not really. Most people would vote for world peace, unilateral disarmament, full employment, high wages, great fully funded NHS, top class education and eradicating poverty, good affordable housing for everyone and a manufacturing industry so jobs for life.

Who doesn't want that.

The problem is whose going to pay for it and how would you achieve it in a global economy.

That's the hard part and Corbyn has no idea has he.

Mind you as Corbyn so admired and supported the IRA and Hammas perhaps he could have a chat to those nice Isis lads. Give them our trident. Sure they would use it wisely.

Am I missing something? Surely if Labour want to win any chance of being in power, Corbyn has to appeal to the electorate NOT just the labour party?

Why can't he see that whilst he may have won the battle, he has surely lost the war?

I am a floating voter/centrist/blairite/red tory type and I could easily be swayed to vote labour if they moved centre left, but with Corbyn at the helm they are like an extremist fringe group!

Well done, Corbyn. You may have 2/3 of the labour party members backing you but great swathes of the people you really need to win over just think you're a twat.

No.

Edinburgh

But the majority of the middle class would vote for JC if only the main stream media didn't keep reporting negative things about him, its a conspiracy.

Am I alone in considering Blair to have been a good priminister and a good labour leader? Yes he should have gone earlier because in the end he'd lost the energy he had to begin with but he could see the disaster that was Brown and co.

Mathsmum are you for real? Is corbyn biggest complaint he can't gag the media as effectively as his MPs!